Talk:Mount Sinai (disambiguation)

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Moved all Biblical Mount Sinai taalk to Biblical Mount Sinai.--Tombombadil 23:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 September 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved, slightly early close but WP:SNOW at this point. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Sinai (disambiguation) → Mount Sinai – No primary topic. Per WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY: (1) Mount Sinai (Mount Moses) has 28k views and Biblical Mount Sinai has 20k views, despite the latter having a much less natural name; and (2) a google books search shows a mix of both topics (when excluding references to the famous New York teaching hospital). There was a previous proposal to swap the primary topics (rather than disambiguate) here; pinging @Colin M, Rreagan007, Srnec, and Shhhnotsoloud: Onceinawhile (talk) 20:46, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the mountain seems like the primary topic to me, being what the biblical article is about as well._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:04, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The current setup with a hatnote seems better to me than a dab page. In the proposed scenario, 100% of users arrive at the wrong page, whereas now at worst it's about 50% (and probably less). A primary topic swap makes more sense (the biblical meaning being literally primary), but in the last RM the proposed title for the current main article was not good. In fact, this RM needs to be a multi-move and needs to propose where Mount Sinai ends up if the dab page takes that space over. (Same problem happened in the last RM: nom did not indicate where Mount Moses was to go.) Srnec (talk) 23:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose everyone would expect this to be the traditional Mount Sinai, with the 6th century Saint Catherine's Monastery. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, I see nothing wrong with the status quo. bd2412 T 10:44, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Srnec that the proposed move would give a worse experience for readers searching for "Mount Sinai". However, I think there's a good argument for the move as a means of avoiding mistargeted wikilinks. If you search for [[Mount Sinai]] links, a lot of them (maybe even a majority) are referring to Biblical Mount Sinai. Making Mount Sinai a dab page would force editors to be explicit about which Mount Sinai they're referring to (like New York, or French). Onceinawhile, if we make Mount Sinai a dab page, how would you propose renaming the article currently at that name? Mount Moses, as proposed in your earlier RM? Or with a parenthetical disambiguator? Colin M (talk) 15:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Colin M and Srnec: I would vote for “Mount Sinai (Jebel Musa)”. That is how most sources refer to it. Some examples from google books: “ Jebel Serbal was a shortlived Mount Sinai, eclipsed by the growing belief that Jebel Musa was the true”... ”revere Mount Sinai, Jebel Musa, also known as Horeb, the Holy Mountain of the Law.”... “Pinnacle of Jebel Musa, traditional site of Mt. Sinai”... “A few peaks in the Sinai Peninsula have been suggested as the biblical Mount Sinai. Jebel Musa (named after Moses”... “Jebel Musa, possible site of Mount Sinai”... “The mountain known as Mount Sinai, or Jebel Musa”... “For hundreds of years now, a mountain peak some 7,647 feet high in the southern Sinai Peninsula called Jebel Musa (Mountain of Moses) has”

Onceinawhile (talk) 19:17, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd personally call it Mount Sinai (biblical location). "Biblical figure" is common as a disambiguation for people featuring in the Bible._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 22:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposals for a move of Biblical Mount Sinai are a matter for an RM at Talk:Biblical Mount Sinai, not here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.