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Assess[edit]

Just a stub as insufficient meaningful content to constitute a start. Dahliarose 10:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have since added more information to the article. Would it still be considered a stub? Lcw27 (talk) 00:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Tag[edit]

I have decided to add the proposed deletion tag, as this school is umimportant, little more can be added & this page has recievd high rates of vandalism. I would like to discuss with other members if they feel that this can be merged or if you don't believe this should be deleted. (Radiotay (talk) 19:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)).[reply]

I have removed the PROD. The article is currently very poor, but there is scope for expansion. It is inconceivable that material cannot be found to expand the article when the school was founded in 1815. Dahliarose (talk) 20:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merger[edit]

Maybe this article should be merged? If you disagree can we maybe discuss how this article can expand and how the vandalism rate on this article will decrease. Radiotay (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism is no reason for deleting or merging an article. If there is a particular problem the page can be protected. In my experience the vandals usually realise they're wasting their time and give up. You can try reporting the vandals if necessary and get them banned from editing. With a long history going back to 1815 the school merits a proper article. I've put it forward for the schools collaboration of the month to see if anyone wants to take it on. Dahliarose (talk) 01:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

I am assessing this article as requested, I am granting it C / High. While not all claims are referenced there is enough here of importance including history and extra-curricular activities to justify high-importance. This article is certainly now beyond a Stub, and close to B-class. First, the lead could do with more work. It seems to have a lot of focus on the dome, it should only introduce the article and summarise all the other sections in the article. There also seem to be a lack of sources for dome related info in this article, who says it is the most famous aspect? The history section is pretty good though refs should be after full stops. I am not sure what the point of the organization section is, it is written in a promotional tone, the content here should probably be merged into the rest of the article in a more neutral fashion. The Departments section needs at least some text and sources to explain it. The Sports section is well sourced but again rather promotional in tone and sports do fall under extra-circular activities. The extra-curricular activities section is okay, though it currently focuses on one issue, it should probably be expanded including having sports merged into it. The alumni section desperately needs references, particularity with WP:BLP, and usually everybody listed there should meet WP:N for their own article per WP:NNC, so either there should be a blue or red link for each person per WP:REDLINK. While not required for B-class, the sources should probably be cleaned up to use templates such as {{cite web}} with as much of the source info e.g. date, publisher filled in for each source as possible. Camaron · Christopher · talk 17:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 2011 Assessment[edit]

I am having a look at this article after a request on Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Assessment. I am assessing this article against the B class criteria.


*The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary. checkY

i.e. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. The use of citation templates such as {{cite web}} is not required.


*The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.  Although...

i.e. It contains a large proportion of the material necessary for an A-Class article, although some sections may need expansion, and some less important topics may be missing.

I would possibly say there is a little to much information in some sections, most notably the Organisation section, so perhaps some of these trivialities could be removed?


*The article has a defined structure.  But...

i.e. Content should be organized into groups of related material, including a lead section and all the sections that can reasonably be included in an article of its kind.

I would consider breaking the Notable Connections section off into a separate article, if it gets much longer, as they have a tendency to overwhelm the page.


*The article is reasonably well-written.checkY

i.e. The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but it certainly need not be "brilliant". The Manual of Style need not be followed rigorously.

A few minor errors here and there but nothing stopping B-Class


*The article contains supporting materials where appropriate. checkY

i.e. Illustrations are encouraged, though not required. Diagrams and an infobox etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content.


*The article presents its content in an appropriately understandable way.checkY

i.e. It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. Although Wikipedia is more than just a general encyclopedia, the article should not assume unnecessary technical background and technical terms should be explained or avoided where possible.


Overall this article is very good, although it does contain some trivia that is only of use to those attending or wishing to attend the school, so for example I think the subject lists by year should be removed, as these can be found on the school website. The article also has a slightly promotional tone in some places, so I would advise editors to have a look at WP:WTW and also WP:NPOV for some idea on how to ensure it does not read like an advertisement. Also, the lead needs building and referencing so have a look at WP:LEAD for some ideas on how to improve it; the lead should be a summary of the whole article, so if a section seems to trivial to put in the lead, then that would also question whether it is necessary in the article. On the whole though this article is neutral, has a good structure, and contains lots of well sourced information, so I am going to upgrade this article to B Class. If you would like any more feedback then please ask me on my talk page. Happy editing TheAuthor22 [Talk] 09:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

Please note that none of this article is a COPY-VIO. Parts of this article have been copied onto the school's web page after appearing on Wikipedia, without acknowledgement. Luconst 09:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

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