Talk:Mince

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Requested move 13 June 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 06:32, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mince (disambiguation) → Mince – Between Minced meat, err, Ground meat or Ground beef (noun) and Mincing (verb), I don't believe there is a clear primary topic. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 05:45, 22 June 2015 (UTC) – Wbm1058 (talk) 03:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wbm1058 I agree that there is no single clear topic on mince and interpret that, in effect, there are many "varieties of mince" or "minces". Could an alternative be to redirect Mince to Mince (disambiguation)? Otherwise its a clear support. Greg Kaye 08:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Greg, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/Malplaced disambiguation pages. That's one of the harder project pages to find here. Seems like every time I search for it it takes me ten minutes to find it, so I finally added a link to it from my user page. How I found it this time: I know it's what JHunterJ specializes in, so I found it as his most-edited project page. There should be a direct link to that page from the policy page that supports it. Wbm1058 (talk) 12:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. That redirection is not a viable alternative. Thanks! -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:36, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and in line with current MoS guidelines I happily support the current move proposal. I have also raised question regarding the applicability and, I think, logic of these guidelines at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation/Malplaced disambiguation pages#If disambiguation pages are lists of "Foogles" wouldn't less ambiguous titles be Foogle (disambiguation) or List of F/foogles? and welcome thoughts. Ping: Wbm1058 and JHunterJ. Thanks. Greg Kaye 13:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as it stands. Most of the topics on the disambiguation page are partial title matches. Is there any evidence, for example, that "mincemeat" is referred to merely as "Mince"? bd2412 T 21:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Mince" is the standard term in Britain, as in the case of the mince pie. I know this is a bit WP:OR, but I can point you toward the BBC Good Food website, where one will find many "mince" recipies. Here is one example. RGloucester — ☎ 04:57, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@BD2412: both Ground meat and Ground beef can be described as mince. Mince can either relate to topics like these or Mincing. Greg Kaye 06:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@BD2412: Take a look at the history of "Mince". The initial version of 7 June 2005 redirected to ground beef, and that redirect stood for two years. When that was redirected to Ground meat on on June 11, it triggered a Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review hit on Mincing – that's what got my attention. So, between beef and meat, I concluded that there was no clear primary topic for minced meat. As an American, I've always thought of mince as a fruity pie filling (not sure whether I ever figured out whether there's an actual fruit called "mince"), but for sure if my mum had ever asked me to go to the market and buy her two pounds of "mince", I wouldn't have come home with hamburger meat. Different story in the UK, as I understand it. That's the rationale here. Wbm1058 (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition withdrawn in light of a convincing counterargument. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. In Britain, the meat would certainly be the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:17, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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