Talk:Military camouflage/Archive 1

French Pre-Cammo Photo

Red (garance) trousers in a noncamouflaged french uniform

I shold have noted in edit remarks, but removed Image:Musee-de-lArmee-IMG 0981.jpg as it does not illustrate any species of camouflage, and is as innapropriate to the article as any other image of military uniforms worn before the concept of camouflage was applied (such as the red tunics of British Army regiments of foot). A photograph of the first French attempt at a general- or limited-issue camouflage (a field-blue, as I recall) would be appropriate.

Aodhdubh 06:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hi. I am the guy who added the picture. Well, the text mentions this uniform:

At the beginning of World War I, the French retained red (garance) trousers as part of their uniform.

My rationale is that a specially bad (camouflage wise) uniform is worth showing, just as a counterpoint.

But, yes, you have a point. I suggest to add the text I added in the picture (above) to make clear that uniform was pre-camouflage.

Any suggestions? Randroide 07:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be an awfully good idea to add the phot back in. Defining anything includes defining what it is not. DMorpheus (talk) 13:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Better links?

I was surprised to find that there are so few links on camouflage. The Rangermade link may have the best camouflage ever devised--but there are no pictures of this camouflage anywhere on that page, and it seems to me that a link from a camouflage article should contain samples of camouflage, not articles with no pictures. I've got nothing against articles, but military camouflage is a very visual subject. I've removed this link and replaced it with an article on ghillie suits. This seems to be what the Rangermade page is describing. 128.123.86.26 00:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

USA camo

The section entitled "United States" is mostly not about the US. In fact, only one sentence is. If somebody could remedy that, that would be great.--Nashaii 20:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Digital Camo

The photo in the Digital Camo section has nothing to do with Digital Camo. Tmaull 13:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it doesn't it looks like normal camo (unless he is so hidden we can't find him) 24.196.115.179 22:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

yea the picture is a picture of digital desert camo if you look real close.

External Links

"See Also" contains links outside of the Wikipedia network, an "External Links" section should be created underneath the SA section for the...external links.

Camouflage Clothing

Anyone feel like trying to rescue this one? See talk:camouflage. Richard001 08:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

"German military tent camouflage"

The Germans actually manufactured uniforms for their army in this pattern until industrial production shortages forced them to adopt the "feldgrau" ("field grey," actually a greyish green color) as standard in 1942. They did tents and ponchos too, but they stopped doing those in this pattern long before they stopped making the uniforms. Oh, and the picture shows only the spring-summer light/bright color side. This cloth was all reversible, and the tents, tunics, and pants had pockets on both sides. The other side was the "autumn/winter" side which was the same pattern (printed with rollers, if I recall correctly) printed with darker, dullier, muddier colors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.120.26 (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Australian Research

The Australian department of defence has done some research into camouflage from infra-red and night vision detection, I think the relevant information on this page should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.123.149 (talk) 01:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

History edit

I have tidied up some of the chronological misplacements, rewritten some bits to correct syntax and grammar, added a pile of stuff on the history of US camo and created some headings to make it a little easier for editors to place their contributions. Dom Damian (talk) 21:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Roger's Rangers and earlier

America used dull colors as early as Roger's Rangers in an attempt to blend in with the environment.(Burt Garfield Loescher (1946), The History of Rogers' Rangers) I imagine the trend first appeared at this time due to the invention of reliable firearms and the increased range of combat, but I don't have any sources for this. In any case, Roger's Rangers takes the American history back at least another 80 years and should be included. Does anybody have any supporting or dismissive evidence for my skirmish thesis?

Lucas.yamanishi (talk) 19:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Other than 'America' (I assume you mean US) not being a nation during the time of Rogers Rangers? It would be more appropriate in the British section I think given that Robert Rogers was essentially a British officer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.176.218 (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Finnish snowsuits and M/62 pattern camo combat suit

Interesting how nothing is mentioned about Finnish Winter War issue snowsuits (all-white combat dress) and the camouflaged combat suit that was adopted in 1962. Of course, like in UK, it didn't reach everyone immediately... 194.197.79.18 (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I added a small note for finnish snowsuits with a nice picture. 212.149.213.242 (talk) 18:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. With appropriate citations and references, this article would easily qualify as B class if not higher. --dashiellx (talk) 19:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo of Bronze Horseman

Caption says "camouflaged" but, in fact, it is not camouflaged at all, just protected. I do not believe it belongs on this page. GS3 (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I'll remove it. Smartse (talk) 13:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

USSR images

These links were added to the article. They don't belong there so I've moved them here. Smartse (talk) 11:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC) http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm3.htm http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm31.htm http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm11.htm http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm9.htm http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm25.htm http://www.rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm10.htm