Talk:Micro Transport Protocol

Micro Transport Protocol received a peer review by Wikipedia editors, which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.

This article was nominated for deletion on 23 December 2008 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Internet Low‑importance

	Internet portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Internet, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Internet on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.InternetWikipedia:WikiProject InternetTemplate:WikiProject InternetInternet articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Software: Computing Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Software, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of software on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SoftwareWikipedia:WikiProject SoftwareTemplate:WikiProject Softwaresoftware articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Computing.

Telecommunications Low‑importance

	Telecommunication portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Telecommunications, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Telecommunications on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TelecommunicationsWikipedia:WikiProject TelecommunicationsTemplate:WikiProject TelecommunicationsTelecommunications articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Computing: Networking Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Computing, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of computers, computing, and information technology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ComputingWikipedia:WikiProject ComputingTemplate:WikiProject ComputingComputing articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Networking task force (assessed as Low-importance).

23 December 2008 AfD[edit]

How is this no consensus? It is easily a very clear keep 76.66.198.171 (talk) 07:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6 January 2009 Snaaio[edit]

Page should be renamed and moved, uTP stands for "micro Torrent Protocol" (in analogy to μTorrent being written as uTorrent). Source: [1], under "What is in 1.9:" --Snaaio (talk) 03:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-support. It actually stands for "micro Transport Protocol. uTP is a general-use transport protocol lying on top of UDP, and indeed, it's explained in the thread you linked to. Arbitrarynick (talk) 00:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inacurracies[edit]

A lot of incorrect information in this page.

µTP is designed to reduce congestion, not to increase speed.
µTP is not "used by BitTorrent implementations", it is used by one BitTorrent implementation (granted, the most popular one).
µTP is not hidden, it is used by default by µT 2.0 and 2.1.

Somebody really should fix all of that. Jec (talk) 06:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I did it. --Jec (talk) 00:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To me it really does increase speed. Sitting behind two NATs (outer one, by ISP, has no port forwarding) i see uTorrent getting an orders more peers (thus speed increased) with uTP on. In theory UDP alone should do it fine, but in reality only together with uTP it works. In Vuze however uTP is not capable of pinning the holes. BTW, it's ironic, but heavy uTP traffic may bring home router (TrendNet BRP-632 gen 1) to its knees, while same speed of TCP traffic does not, that talking of congestion. 79.111.223.5 (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality? Sources?[edit]

Is this still Wikipedia or what? This article (in its present state) does NOT belong here.

Oh my, care to clarify? Jec (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1. µTP was developed within BitTorrent, Inc., with no input from the wider networking community.
Where's the actual source of this info? Author provided only a link to a forum thread where nothing like this is mentioned. ^[1].

The author (me) provided a link to a forum thread where the uTorrent developers acknowledge that there is no uTP specificatin, at a date when uTP was already being fielded. What more information do you need? Jec (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2. The framing scheme has functionality roughly equivalent to that of TCP (with timestamps and SACK), but realized in a somewhat idiosyncratic manner.
This is biased against µTP (the author needs to explain what "idiosyncratic" is supposed to mean in the context of µTP) AND no source is given.

Fair enough, I'll clarify. I do object to your removing the term altogether, though.Jec (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3. Ledbat has been described in an Internet-Draft, but the details of the µTP implementation are different from those of the draft.
In the forum thread ^[2] that is supposed to be the source, one of the µTorrent developers clearly states that there's precisely one difference between LEDBAT and µTP and this difference is a minor one.

Ehm... Reacting to loss less aggressively than TCP is a minor issue? You're kidding, I hope. Jec (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given source is no longer publicly accessible: "This group is on a private domain". Removing it from the article. bungalo (talk) 16:51, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

4.Many ISPs had problems on BRAS and Border routers when customers started to use µTP
The "source" of this information is a link to a forum thread ^[3] on a Russian community forum where the implied "problems" are discussed by anonymous posters. There's no way to verify their connection to any actual ISP. Furthermore, there are NO offial reports of any major ISP in the world having problems with µTP.

Please, provide some RELIABLE sources or remove the quoted sections from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.27.28.247 (talk) 09:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No reply? Alright, I'm removing the unverifiable info now.

That's not the way things are done. Jec (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are a couple of research papers^{[citation needed]} that mention this protocol. If someone has time, please search at http://scholar.google.com and write a review. Mange01 (talk) 17:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 5 external links on Micro Transport Protocol. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 11:35, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Micro Transport Protocol. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150402090740/http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/?q=node%2F42 to http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/?q=node%2F42

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:20, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Micro Transport Protocol. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110123183649/http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=76640 to http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=76640
Added archive https://archive.is/20130415085006/http://libswift.org/ to http://libswift.org/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=59150

[2] ttp://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?pid=753#p753>

[3] ttp://forum.nag.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=55025

[1]

[2]

[3]