Talk:Michael Rubin (historian)

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On 7 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Michael Rubin to Michael Rubin (historian). The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move[edit]

I am requesting that this page be moved to Michael Rubin, which currently redirects here. This is the only article on Wikipedia about a person with this name; Michael Rubin used to be a disambiguation page listing others, but none of them were notable enough to have an article. Until any other Michael Rubin articles are created, this one should be at that title. Robofish (talk) 04:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the page, as this appears to be an uncontroversial request. Previous page location was Michael Rubin (historian). Dekimasuよ! 09:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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No love lost between Rubin/Erdogan regime[edit]

Sabah (Istanbul)>>>>>Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Friday filed a complaint against former staff adviser for Iraq and Iran at the Pentagon Michael Rubin over provocative tweets insulting and threatening Erdoğan and his family. ... ... ... Lodged to the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's office by Erdoğan's lawyer Hüseyin Aydın, the nine-page complaint letter accused Rubin -- an American Enterprise Institute (AEI) analyst -- of insulting the president. ... ... ... Rubin is accused of supporting and committing offenses for Gülenist Terror Group (FETÖ), which is blamed by Turkish government for perpetrating the July 15 defeated coup that left 250 people dead and around 2,200 injured.[1]<<<<<

Algemeiner (New York): >>>>Rubin said. “It’s time to end the fiction that certain foundations and organizations aren’t anything more than Turkish proxies. If Erdogan is using such groups to bypass FARA or conduct illegal espionage, it’s time that their principles face all penalties under the law, including for espionage.”[2]<<<<<--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 04:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Conflict of interest" edits[edit]

An anonymous user has been repeatedly deleting facts about Rubin and the UAE case of Nasser bin Ghaith. The edits started minutes after the section was first added, indicating the user was monitoring this page, and repeatedly since. See anonymous edits on May 23, June 4, June 28, and August 25, 2021.

These edits favor Rubin's perspective over that of the bin Gaith family, third party articles and human rights organizations, or outright remove all information related to the UAE. They appear to come from the same person based on the sequence of comments, and the fact that there are no other contributions from those IP addresses. Here are the users:

12.0.16.226

2600:1003:B44C:7D7:D537:7B96:31F0:C48D

96.255.35.112

96.231.138.3

66.50.79.98

Note these IP addresses are all in the Washington DC area, except for the last one, used for edits in August, which is a hotel in Puerto Rico.

These edits seem to violate Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest policy.

Page was protected, twice. Both times, soon after protection expired, the anonymous edits resumed.

Anonymous edits returned in August 2022, and deleted the UAE sections as well as Ethiopia sections.

Page protection needed again.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemozen (talk • contribs) 21:36, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After protection expired, removal of controversies resumed in September and October 2023, again from an IP in the Washington DC area. 71.126.162.218 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemozen (talk • contribs) 10:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 July 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 18:19, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– There is no PRIMARYTOPIC for the name Michael Rubin. The businessman's COMMONNAME is just "Michael Rubin" without the initial, and it's not a NATURAL disambiguator because few would use it to differentiate with other Michael Rubins. In fact, the businessman has much more page views. DAB should be moved at base name and the two Michael Rubins further disambiguated. Ortizesp (talk) 16:19, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support 1st and 3rd, the businessman has 680,975 views, the author has 2,933 and the composer has 2,651 compared with only 45,394[[3]] for the historian. No comment on 2nd. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. There are four men listed upon the Michael Rubin (disambiguation) page and, as pointed out in the "support" vote by Crouch, Swale, the historian's renown certainly does not come close to the combined notability of the remaining three men, especially Michael Rubin (businessman) whose entry contains 73 inline cites, none of which references him as "Michael G." —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:00, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.