Talk:Masters Champions League

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"Zafar Shah, an Pakistani-British businessman based in Dubai from 2 decades, is the owner of the Grand Midwest chain of hotels in Dubai. He has a cricket team under the name Grand Midwest Royals. Zafar Shah has Pakistani Passion and Love for the Criket as all of the Pakistan is crazy for Cricket. Even Zafar Shah's Son is a well know Player for Grand Midwest Royal, Sameer Shah. As the chairman of GM Sports, he is one of the founders of Masters Champions League."

is barely in Ebglish and reads as if it's a fan of the person. It's hardly detached.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.142.10.10 (talk) 15:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Merge proposal

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I propose that the 2016 Masters Champions League be merged into this article. Granted the 2016 article was recently addressed at this AFD which was closed as keep, but the closing admin noted here that there was little policy offered in the discussion. Until there are multiple seasons which require being addressed in separate articles, I do not see how the league's administration and the single season of the league are independently notable. Therefore, they should be merged into a single article, which makes it easier for the reader to have all of the information on one page. I will notify the AFD participants and cricket project. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Before we discuss, as you said single season of the league are independently notable the organizers has said that they have license for 10 years. (Price Zero (talk) 02:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC))

As I mentioned at the AFD, making an assumption that 10 seasons will be played is gazing into the crystal ball. What we have now is two paragraphs about the organization in one article and one paragraph and some statistics about a single season in a different article. They belong together until there is an actual need to separate them. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:12, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose I see no benefit from merging the info into one article. We're not paper, so there's not limit to how many articles we have. On the other hand, if this tournament is the first and last edition, then I'd be happy to merge it together. Maybe revisit this in a year from now as there is no deadline? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:32, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support Currently both the articles are giving the same information. Merge for now, and then split if/when it happens next year. Many things claim to have long contracts but do not emerge (Allen Stanford $20 mill cricket matches of which there were meant to be many, Korean Grand Prix which lasted 3 years but was contracted for 13). Joseph2302 (talk) 00:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose There is no need to separate...It has necessary notability and also it is being organized by Emirati Board GreenCricket^TALK 10:37, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Just looked at the tournament again... it is already over!? That was what, 15-16 days? Given the circumstances, with the teams consisting of no Emirati players, retired internationals, and the super short run, among other things, this page should be merged with the parent article. You can create a section in the parent article about the 2016 season and future seasons and include the table, the two stat tables, and even the fixtures in a collapsible form. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 10:54, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose Masters Champions League has 10-year approval from the Emirates Cricket Board. Which means that MCL is deemed to be organised for 10 years at least. Every annual tournamnet has specific happenings. Some records are set, some improve while some are broken. So it is necessary to keep 2016 Masters Champions League on WikiPedia. I will update it gradually so that it stands out from Parent page.SalmanSaleemPK (talk) 14:13, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
• Comment - a tricky one. If (and, given the history of, say, the BPL, it's a biggish if) the tournament continues then it's probably worth have pages for each edition. But at present quite a large proportion of this page belongs in the 2016 page if that's the case - the captains and auction, for example, and the awards certainly belong there (and if the awards stay on this page then they need to be simplified massively - that table will become hideous very quickly). Results can be summarised massively here as well. Which won't actually leave all that much on this page for now. Overall I'd be inclined to work on the content of both pages and rationalise them first. I imagine it will continue in these days of money led cricket, so that should lead to two pages which don't replicate half of each others content at least. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Your last point about money is an interesting one. The other day I found this article which shows the players almost walked out mid-tournament because they weren't getting paid. I think it would take a leap of faith for them to go back again next year, but that is speculation in any event. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:13, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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Merge proposal #2

@Greenbörg: It seems a merge tag has been placed on 2016 Masters Champions League today. Given that that season was the only one that took place of this short lived competition it would seem sensible to selectively merge content to here - I'm not sure we really need the scores to be honest with you - we can do that via an external link to CricInfo.

I suppose an opportunity for a discussion to take place should occur given that this was discussed previously. Anyone object then? Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)§

Blue Square Thing I don't know why it is like this. Yes, we don't need every scorecard but merging knockout stage matches will be fine. Greenbörg (talk) 10:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

That makes sense to me - a prose summary and table for the group stage (with any obvious highlights picked out), the knockout games done somehow - there is a match summary template iirc - and the final dealt with in a little more depth. That sound about right? Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:42, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes thats fine to me. Hope, no one objects. Greenbörg (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Guess it should be left for the full 30 days in the circumstances. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:39, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with 2016 Masters Champions League

Was discussed previously but ended in 'no consensus'. Because MCL is defunct now so it is better to merge the season here. Störm (talk) 07:26, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

This remains an obvious, selective merge. An awful lot of the stuff in the article - specifically the scores and statistics - is better summarised with links pointing to CI. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2019 (UTC)