Talk:Manure-derived synthetic crude oil

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was page moved. Thryduulf (talk) 09:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Porcine petroleum → Pig manure derived synthetic crude oil Manure derived synthetic crude oil — During the AfD process there was a consensus that the current name of this article is a misnomer and better name is needed. The proposed name is based on the proposal by Alan Liefting with a specification that this is synthetic crude oil. The original proposal by Alan was Pig manure derived oil. The proposed name may be a neologism; however, it is more precise name and could serve this article until any other name become common usage. Beagel (talk) 07:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A little unwieldy but very accurate. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 07:37, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose — Changing the name of this article to the proposed one would be like changing gasoline to Fossil fuel for reciprocating piston engines equipped with spark plugs, oh wait someone has done that before. The proposed name is just not good & overly descriptive. 「ɠu¹ɖяy」¤ • ¢  08:07, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to something The currerent name is about pig rock oil ... say pig manure syncrude ? 76.66.197.30 (talk) 11:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Beagel (talk) 13:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the name change to Pig manure derived synthetic crude oil. More encyclopedic and more accurate. There is no established record of notability nor use for Porcine Petroleum, and per WP:NPOV, Wikipedia should not take sides in any debate about whether a particular neologism or fringe term becomes a mainline term. Thus, the pig manure syncrude would have a similar problem. Just keep to a descriptive name, at least for now, and Pig manure derived synthetic crude oil seems to fit that criteria. N2e (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Are pigs the only feed source for this type of process? If not, then a more general name should probably be used. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The University of Illinois, where the experiments are conducted, calls the research field Environment-Enhancing Energy (E2-Energy) and the conversion process thermochemical conversion.[1] I did not find any reliable third party sources using the name Environment-Enhancing Energy or E2-Energy. The process has also other feed sources beside of a pig manure; however, all sources talks only about experiments with the pig manure. Beagel (talk) 08:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to Manure derived synthetic crude oil. While the article is about one process at this point, there is apparently no reason why the basic concept will not work with more manures. So the existing name and scope should be expanded to address this. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with Vegaswikian, thus slightly modifying my Support of 28 Sep, above. I agree that the more general title, without the restrictive term "Pig" in it, is much better. However, if hyphens are allowed in Wikipedia article titles, then wouldn't it be more syntactically correct to say Manure-derived synthetic crude oil? Cheers. N2e (talk) 17:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Grammar is not something I'm strong on. So I don't care which of the two newly proposed versions is used. Someone can decide based on grammar. And yes, dashes and hyphens are allowed in article titles. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I support the proposal by Vegaswikian and accordingly change my original proposal. As of using the hyphens and dashes, I agree with the version, which would be grammatically the most correct. I also propose that all current red links at this page to be redirected to the new title of this article. Beagel (talk) 16:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Questionable citation[edit]

The citation in the article, {cite news |url= http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/07/05/new_economic_development_chief_well-versed_in_trade |title= New economic development chief well-versed in trade |author = Don Dodson |publisher= The News-Gazette.com (requires subscription) |date=2009-07-05 |accessdate=2009-08-28} seems dubious. Could it be errata? The title does not seem related and the source is not verifiable from online sources. Someone who has access to this newspaper should put the relevant quotations, to support both extant uses of the source, here on this talk page. Else, we should consider removing the citation entirely.N2e (talk) 15:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The exact citation is: "Meanwhile, he's acting as a consultant for Snapshot Energy, a start-up firm working to convert animal and human waste to biocrude. The technology was developed by UI professors Yuanhui Zhang and Lance Schideman." The Google snapshot is here. Beagel (talk) 16:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested title change[edit]

The title of the article is ambiguous and misleading. Thermal depolymerization of biomass yields pyrolysis oil or bio-oil, a fluid that is both chemically and physically distinct from petroleum or crude oil. To be factually correct, the title should be changed to "Manure-derived pyrolysis oil" with all references to crude oil changed to avoid any reader confusion with petroleum crude oil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.163.193.185 (talk) 16:31, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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