Talk:Madera Canyon (Arizona)

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Merger discussion[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To move material related to the former town from the Madera Canyon (Arizona) article to Madera Canyon, Arizona, rather than to merge. Klbrain (talk) 09:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Madera Canyon, Arizona, is effectively a ghost town with a well-developed campground built over it. All but a hand full of the homes were evicted and demolished. The main topic for the settlement is better covered now in this page.

IveGoneAway (talk) 03:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. A geographic feature and a populated place are sufficiently distinct to merit different articles. Libcub (talk) 08:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Libcub: You are not wrong, as far as that goes. However, the fact remains that the topic of the populated place that once was in the canyon is only covered in the geographic feature page (3rd and 4th paragraphs of History). The community is not at all covered in the Madera Canyon, Arizona page.

It was necessary to evict, demolish, and reclaim the community to develop the recreational area.

Would you suggest moving much of the community History to the populated place page? This content is the entire basis for the notability of the populated place page, should it ever be challenged for deletion as other similar communities have been.

IveGoneAway (talk) 00:42, 1 February 2023 (UTC) 00:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC) IveGoneAway (talk) 14:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, as the (formerly) populated place is best contextualized on the arguably more important page that focusses on the geographical feature. Formal reasons are context, short text and overlap. Klbrain (talk) 23:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as per Libcub - any relevant information on the canyon page could also be contained on this page. At the very least either a {{main}} or "See also" mention of the populated place on the canyon is warranted.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Done Klbrain (talk) 09:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]