Talk:Münch (motorcycles)

In the text the bike is referred to as a "Mammoth". Was this an official name in English speaking markets? If not I think the article should be changed, to draw a parallel a Panther motorcycle doesnt become a "Panter" in Germany either.

--Rolling Phantom (talk) 15:37, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

This is En Wikipedia. The bike was referred to in period English publications as Mammoth. The American Cycle magazine produced by Floyd Clymer carried a test dated August 1966 where the front cover proclaimed the words it's a Mammoth!. The bike was then produced using Clymer finance and advertised as the Clymer-Munch Mammoth IV in the US. It's referred to as Mammut in De Wikipedia, and the French film poster shows Mammuth. I've also seen Friedl, Friedel, Munch, Münch and Muench.

So historically there is no one 'correct' name, and I think the descriptive here is fit for purpose.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

EN wikipedia does not stand for transferring or abusing original names... Acc. to my knowledge, and to old german motorcycle newspapers (Das Motorrad) Friedel Münch (the one, only and right german name of this famous man) gave his bike design the name "Mammut". Friedel Münch and no german is responvsive for the well known US illiteracy regd. european Umlaute... Yes you can help yourself by transferring the ü Umlaut to ue. But this does not change the original name, and whenever you are at a keyboard offering the Ü, pls. use it. Same with ä => ae => ä, ö => oe => ö, ß => ss => ß. Mammut, german name of the giant elephant precedessor. It should be respected IMHO. So, pls. evaluate this (if the name was given "officially" in any circumstances) and rename respectively. In the baptizising documents of Friedel Münch will have been written originally "Friedrich". "Friedel" is the family (and locally driven) usage for "little Friedrich". But the family, the friends, and everybody in knowing european motorcycling will only use "Friedel". I am engineer and author of technical handbook and information, you can trust me. I also do history research regd. the german-american Steinway family, and there also is a lot of misleading information regd. Heinrich Engelhard Steinweg, Henry Engelhard, Englehard, Engleheart and other partly silly and rubbish stuff of name transfers, done by americans of no knowledge of names, and, I regret to say, with no due respect to other peoples names. - AxelKing (talk) 02:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@AxelKing and Rocknrollmancer: - late reply - I just changed the spelling as the bike was indeed called "Münch Mammut." The only parts that I left are the the Clymer references, as it seems that it was indeed marketed as such Stateside. Friedel was already corrected. As a sidenote, I have found a few online sources calling it "Mammüt", a bit of an overcompensation with the Umlauts. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)