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This page should include the definition of "livor" as all other articles on the stages of death define the meaning of the Latin term in English.12.17.189.77 00:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The forensic example is a bit confusing when compared to the seemingly contrary statement above it (concerning ground contact preventing discoloration due to compression of the capillaries). --209.6.184.249 (talk) 23:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To concur with the above poster - this does not make sense at all:

This definition mentions that, 'Livor mortis.....is a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body,.........This discoloration does not occur in the areas of the body that are in contact with the ground or another object, as the capillaries are compressed'.

Then it further mentions that, 'It can also be used by forensic investigators to determine whether or not a body has been moved (for instance, if the body is found lying face down but the pooling is present on its back, investigators can determine that the body was originally positioned face up).

The body was originally positioned face up - directly infers that the body was initially positioned on it's back.

Therefore governed by the initial statement, that 'This discoloration does not occur in the areas of the body that are in contact with the ground or another object, as the capillaries are compressed' - cannot mean that a body that was initially placed on it's back could therefore have pooling discolouration on it's back'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.99.10 (talk) 20:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that both of these seemingly contradictory statements work. A body on it's back touches the ground, for sure, but not necessarily ALL of the back makes contact. The small of the back arches, there is space between the shoulders, and the sides of the body don't touch, if a body is FLAT on its back. Any other position leaves other parts that don't touch. So the pooling will still be apparent on the back SIDE of a body that died on its back, just not necessarily the total back. Also consider the backs of the arms and legs of a horizontal body. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If a heart beat can regained by addraline shot how long would the person have been dead? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.185.227 (talk) 05:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It the heart can be "regained" by epinephrine, livor mortis would not occur. Period.

For those confused, when the body is laying on its back, the heavy contact areas in point areas of the buttocks, shoulder blades, occipital bun, heels and other areas of compressive contact (areas where the majority of body weight would be distributed (areas that commonly also get pressure ulcers for immobile patients) would be blanched by pressure preventing blood from reaching the circulatory system due to the pressure closing the peripheral blood vessels.

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There's a picture at commons: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/%D0%9F%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.1.200 (talk) 07:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inbound redirect from Hypostasis[edit]

I have made Hypostasis redirect to this article, which seems to be the more active of the two. The following text is the entire old Hypostasis article, in case some of it is useful for recirculation. --shingra (talk) 12:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'''Hypostasis''' is a change that occurs naturally after death in the human body; it is not an injury per se, however it causes the red blood cells to settle in the blood vessels under the influence of gravity – the blood will pool in the area of the skin closest to the ground and can create a reddish-pink colouration of the skin in these areas. It is one of the key characteristics of death. Hypostasis gives a "record of the position of the body at death" and can thus be used in [[forensic pathology]] by a doctor to determine if a body has been moved after death. {{medicine-stub}} [[bg:Хипостаза]]

That Picture[edit]

is horrifying —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.41.33.83 (talk) 15:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CPR[edit]

There was a sentence saying that livor mortis can be used to determine when CPR is futile. That seems like dangerous medical advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4E00:9A38:217:F2FF:FE08:58ED (talk) 01:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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