Talk:List of waterways

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This article was nominated for deletion on 18 January 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Great Belt is listet as a International waterway. Why? It goes between to danish Island. When it comes to Dardanelles, it is the same - Turkey on both sides.

This relates to international rights of navigation - which is critical in both of these cases though in other circumstances they might be considered as within territorial limits Chris55 09:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency[edit]

I think this page needs a little rationalising. Under Ireland we have Rivers and Canals, under Great Britain we have List of Rivers and List of Canals, under United Kingdom we have Waterways and Canals, under Italy, Norway and Sweden we have Category:Canals, and under all other countries a simple list.

Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

ric 18:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. The word "waterway" implicitly means "navigable" and lists of rivers can include many that are not navigable. It is for this reason the word is used by many national and international organisations. It would also be sensible to relegate the lists of waterways within the larger countries to separate articles. Chris55 09:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We need a Lists of waterways article[edit]

This page is never going to be complete. We need a Lists of waterways article. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 10:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the lists of rivers, there are currently nine lists of canals (France, Canada, Great Britain, Ireland, the United States, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, and Texas); three categories of canals (Italy, Norway, and Sweden) which could easily be made into lists, a smattering of other waterway lists (List of estuaries in England, List of reservoirs and dams, and List of straits in the United States) and three lists of organizations (List of navigation authorities in the United Kingdom, List of navigation authorities in the United States, and List of waterway societies in the United Kingdom). Are these are enough for a list of lists? I'm willing to take the first crack at the list. —G716 <^T·_C> 13:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Such as this: User:G716/Lists_of_waterways. —G716 <^T·_C> 13:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have started Lists of reservoirs and dams and expanded Lists of lakes. —G716 <^T·_C> 20:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC) ...and started Lists of waterways —G716 <^T·_C> 06:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

if there is list of waterways and a separate lists of waterways won't people get confused? I think it would be better to redirect this one to the other. Brownsnout spookfish (talk) 19:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have List of... and Lists of... for a number of water features. Perhaps the List of... should be renamed to List of notable.... Then we can have endless discussions why the River Nile is more or less notable than the River Cam.

List of...	Lists of...
list of rivers	lists of rivers
list of lakes	lists of lakes
list of waterways	lists of waterways
list of reservoirs and dams	lists of reservoirs and dams

—G716 <^T·_C> 22:32, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I started a Lists of canals article before discovering this discussion thread and the work by G716. I agree with Brownsnout spookfish. There is no need for a List of Foo article if a Lists of Foo article exists. The List of is redundunt because of the Lists of articles. Note that I have cleaned out a lot of the redundant links in List of waterways. I have left all the stuff that does not have homes. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 05:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with "waterways" is that it has no clear definition. It can include rivers, canals, lakes, estuaries, seaways separating different countries and probably more. Limiting it to navigable inland waterways brings some sense, but where do you draw the line? Canoes? Motorboats? Is an isolated lake/reservoir a waterway? Where does it go to? Ok if it's large enough to be a means of getting from one place to another, but it's usually just part of a river. e.g. the Shannon has at least 4 major loughs (lakes) and an estuary, but it would normally be given a single entry in a list.

There is a similar problem with lists of canals - do you include canalised (and other) rivers or not? If you want to travel inland by boat, then you will use both. So why not just have inland waterways?

If it's going to be a list, then let it be a list of lists, by country. Chris55 (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

European Inland Waterways[edit]

Right now, we are implementing UNECE.org's numbering scheme: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/E-waterway_network Anyone interested porting this list to wikipedia? --DeltaIndiaRomeoKilo-- (talk) 06:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]