Talk:List of relocated NBA teams

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Hmm... Didn't San Francisco Warriors later relocate to Oakland as Golden State Warriors? Or is Oakland same as San Francisco? I would not say so. 85.217.32.182 (talk) 19:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently they are rather adjacent to each other. Google Maps gives 20 km (12.5 mi) of distance. 82.141.119.130 (talk) 02:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Moves within metro area[edit]

Same issue as above, with San Francisco vs. Oakland. Also have the Nets, New Jersey vs. Brooklyn. Both of those are clearly the same metro area, and the same TV market as defined by the FCC and Nielsen. (See http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/public%20factsheets/tv/2012-2013%20DMA%20Ranks.pdf or http://www.tvb.ca/page_files/pdf/InfoCentre/TVBasics.pdf ) The Nets move may have seemed pretty far, jumping the all the way across Manhattan, but it was only 10 miles as the crow flies. As for the Golden State Warriors you can read the whole history there, they played a few games in Oakland even before the move, like some of the old regional ABA teams used to do (Squires, Cougars), and even changed to a regional name, Golden State, when they moved to Oakland.

But Washington vs. Baltimore for the Bullets is another matter. Though only about 36 miles apart, they are different media markets. Each has a full slate of TV stations, etc.

So the existing article should be modded in some way, since the Bullets move is a footnote (I did that), the Nets move is listed normally, and the Warriors move is not mentioned at all. Need to at least flip the importance of Bullets vs. Nets.

The Bullets should be in the list, and the Warriors and Nets should be in the list or footnotes. Only problem is getting the split stats for the Bullets and Warriors.

Merger proposal with List of defunct National Basketball Association teams[edit]

I propose that List of relocated National Basketball Association teams be merged with List of defunct National Basketball Association teams into List of defunct and relocated National Basketball Association teams. I think that the content in both articles can cover the topics sufficiently. The reason for this proposal is to create an article for the National Basketball Association that is similar to (but not the same as) List of defunct and relocated National Hockey League teams. I am also proposing the template for Template:NBAdefunct be appropriately changed to the template name that is consistent with the new article name. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 05:43, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hornets[edit]

Since the NBA now recognizes the Charlotte Hornets/Bobcats/Hornets and New Orleans Hornets/New Orleans-Oklahoma City Hornets/New Orleans Hornets/Pelicans as two separate franchises, should they be on this list?50.136.139.204 (talk) 09:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Considerations of adding the Relocation History of the Brooklyn Nets[edit]

The relocation history of the Brooklyn Nets should be added as while it did only move ten miles it is unfair to say that the team did not change fanbases or even metro areas. While the team did play inside the New York Metro Area the team was more served by the Newark Metro area and the Jersey city metro area. Most of the fans of the team before the relocation were from New Jersey and following the switch the fanbase changed. New Jersey and Brooklyn are two very culturally different places and differ so drastically that the question of the excluding the Nets relocation should be reconsidered. This also differs from the Warriors relocation as no name change occurred and very little changed about the team. Brooklyn is a different sports, as the reason they moved the nets to brooklyn was to help the financial viability of the team. If Brooklyn and New Jersey are considered two different sports markets the movement of the team should be considered a relocation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VictorFromNewJersey (talk • contribs) 04:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the Nets[edit]

I'm boldly removing the Nets, because it's still the same metro area, and therefore not a relocation in any meaningful sense of the term. More importantly, listing going to Brooklyn while not listing going to New Jersey from Long Island in the first place is completely inconsistent. oknazevad (talk) 12:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They changed states. That's definitely a major relocation, regardless. Jacehan (talk) 01:43, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is not. It's easily the same metro area. They didn't change local broadcasters, for example. Or training facilities initially, continuing to use the one down the street from the Meadowlands for some years after Barclays opened. It was no more than commuting distance difference. And again, claiming this is a major relocation but not including when they went to Jersey in the first place is totally inconsistent and incomplete. They're still in the same market, just a different spot. Heck, the Pistons moved a further distance when they went from the Palace to Little Caesars Arena. oknazevad (talk) 12:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why does not changing local broadcasters matter? They also changed names. I think we should be erring on the side of having more information, not less. If someone were using this page as a resource for research, as I was, having a team missing because it didn't meet some obscure criteria doesn't make sense. If you feel it's inconsistent to include this move but not their original move to New Jersey, then add that move onto the table, don't remove this one. 2600:4041:5E94:1B00:F0AA:3960:84B5:69F6 (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I object is because you get junk like those who talked like the team was little more than an expansion team with no fans (junk I've had to remove from the main article before) and not the reality that they're still the same franchise in the same metro area. They got a new building. But they're still the Nets and still in the New York metro area. They didn't move from say, Seattle to Oklahoma City. That's a move. As I said above, the Pistons moved a greater distance than the Nets, and yet they're not listed. oknazevad (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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