Talk:List of organ transplant donors and recipients

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Unverified names[edit]

I suggest removing the unverified names and keeping them on a private checklist until the information is ready. Otherwise this generally looks good so far. DurovaCharge! 04:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions[edit]

The listing for the first (successful) human kidney transplant is completely incorrect here. It is well-known (and also stated elsewhere in the Wikipedia) that the first such transplant was in 1954 in Boston, Massachusetts, between two identical-twin brothers. They lived for years afterwards, but it is notable that the recipient twin outlived the donor twin by a significant period of years, and the donor died from reasons that did not have anything to do with kidney disease. Dale A. Wood, dale101usa@aol.com 72.146.34.240 01:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more suggestions:
  • Totally agree with Durova re: unverified names/details. You need to tidy this aspect ASAP, since someone might suggest the article be deleted in its current form.* You don't actually have any donors listed. I suspect it will be v. difficult to get any significant number of these. Very few organs can be donated by a living person (and so any such list of notables could be added to that organ's articles). Organs donated by dead people will almost certainly be anonymous. Therefore I suggest this list be renamed (moved) to List of notable organ transplant recipients. The use of the word "notable" has been discussed on other lists/guidelines - some editors think it is not required and should not be used.
  • The fictional list is pure trivia of interest to only a small minority of readers (fans of Larry David). Drop it and keep this list focused on notable real recipients.
  • There's an odd mix of subheadings. The most sensible grouping is to have sections for each organ - these are the only top-level headings you need (apart from the References at the end).
  • The life should just be (born–died) or (born—) years only. The days and months aren't always available, make the table cell wide, and aren't particularly interesting.
  • Drop the "Organ received" column (due to the sections above), which leaves more room for the comments.
  • The "Survival" column should be done the same way as List of notable brain tumor patients. In other words, if the person died, give a time in years and (if possible) months. If the person is still alive, give the year the transplant occurred followed by an emdash.
  • You must restrict your transplant facts to those that can be supported by your references. This may require more than one reference.
  • You can get some liver transplant names and references from List of people with hepatitis C. Please contribute to that list if you find any relevant names as you research.
  • Don't wikilink the years or separately wikilink the years and month/day. The only time you wikilink such things is if you have a full date and in this case the best form to use is [[yyyy-mm-dd]</s>].

Colin°Talk 17:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see Colin's already been here - he's the expert! I did a bit of cleanup - some things to be aware of:
  • I expanded your refs to full bibliographic entries, and put the list in alphabetical order
  • There is inconsistency in use of dashes - some are entered as dashes, some as ndashes.
  • Many of the entries aren't yet referenced
  • The table at the top shouldn't be in the lead, rather incorporated into the body of the article - see WP:LEAD.
  • I agree that the unreferenced should be either quickly referenced, or moved to the talk page - speculative notables are problematic, and you should insist upon reliably-sourced references for any addition to this list. Sandy (Talk) 15:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People to add[edit]

Need to add the following people: *Kerry Packer

*Chris Klug

Recipient of a kidney transplant: Alonzo Mourning, a great basketball player and an NBA All-Star. Mr. Mourning was even able to return to the NBA for a few years after his kidney transplant.47.215.188.197 (talk) 02:37, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also can check out [2] for names. Remember 12:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another visit[edit]

Remember asked me to pay another visit. My first reaction is that table format doesn't work very well here. DurovaCharge! 20:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a closer look now - I first saw the request for input while I was logged in from my local public library (where I was looking up other information) and the tables displayed very poorly in the library's browser window. Things look much better from my home computer although the experience prompts me to reconsider my usually strong advocacy of table format for potential featured lists.
The presentation and referencing has advanced light years since I first saw this page. Kudos to the editors who put forth this effort. I suggest replacing the image at the top of the page with something better if possible. Strong backlighting leaves the subject's face severely underexposed. Some histogram adjustments in Photoshop may do the trick if other appropriately licensed photographs are unavailable. Another recommendation is to fill in the red links with stub articles before nominating for featured list candidacy.
The lead section could use some expansion with referenced information about organ donation generally. Also consider including The Nicholas Green Foundation and its associated news story somewhere in your background. This was major news in Italy in 1994: Nicholas Green was a seven-year-old boy from the United States whose family was vacationing in Italy when criminals killed him during a robbery. His parents donated his organs and corneas, which went to seven Italians. At that time Italy had one of the lowest organ donation rates in the developed world so the response from the Italian press and public was both grateful and humbled.
I ran a quick Google search for bone marrow donation because I noticed the bone marrow registry wasn't mentioned and located this interesting tidbit:
Rap star Nelly used his celebrity stature to talk about the importance of organ donation after his sister, Jacqueline Donahue, was diagnosed with acute myelogenous leukemia in 2001. After she was told that she needed a bone marrow transplant, Nelly spearheaded a nationwide bone marrow awareness and registration drive. According to the National Bone Marrow Registry, the drive was the most successful Black bone marrow registry in history, with more than 1,025 new donors registered, including Nelly and other family members.[3]
This leads me to suspect that some stones remain unturned on this subject. When I researched List of notable brain tumor patients I ran well over a hundred search engine queries and generally looked at least a hundred returns deep each time. Advanced searching with specific types of celebrity was often necessary. Also look out for alternate regional spellings. I uncovered entirely different sets of information when I replaced brain tumor with brain tumour at search queries. You'll decide the standards eventually, but to give a sample of the kind of process I used:
  1. Start an advanced Google search such as this one for baseball.[4]
  2. Scan results for relevant entries. In this instance the name of hall of famer Rod Carew caught my attention.[5]
  3. Retrieve the article.[6] If it meets definite or possible inclusion standards then copy and paste the URL onto a text browser for later use along with some of your own notes. I like to use cached versions for ease of reference during the research phase, later replacing them with verified live links.[7]
  4. Be careful to stay on the right side of WP:NOR. It's acceptable to cite existing statistics and analysis in the lead section and it's acceptable to run complex search engine queries to obtain names and references, but refrain from offering your own analysis editorially.
My original (pre-Wikipedia) version of the brain tumor list included quite a few entries where the celebrity was a family member rather than the patient. Due to certain sensitivities associated with neurological conditions and a respectful deference I decided not to use those entries when I adapted the information for Wikipedia. I had distributed the original list through a topical e-mail list server to patients, families, and charities. Since organ impairments are less stigmatized you might consider using that type of information in a separate section here. Best wishes. DurovaCharge! 23:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

India transplant[edit]

I removed Mr. A. Jagannatham and Mrs. from the list, because: a) While the transplant may have been notable, (see below) "they" (i.e. Mr. and Mrs. A. Jagannatham) are not notable people. b) The source says "first adult-to-adult live donor liver transplant in India", making even the transplant itself less than notable. c) I couldn't find any report by the BBC, even though the source says that they covered it (??). These above seems make this inclusion contrary to the spirit of the article.--DO11.10 02:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I didn't really think that belonged either. Remember 02:44, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other transplants?[edit]

Does anyone know of any notable recipients of lung or bone marrow transplants? If so, could you please add them? Dylan Slade 18:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I very noted man who received (several) bone marrow transplants was Dr. Carl Sagan, the great astronomer and author from Cornell University, who wrote about 20 books for the general public, including the Pulitzer Prize-winning book The Dragons of Eden and the novel Contact and numerous articles in Parade magazine on such subjects as nuclear winter. Sagan was one of the originators of the concept of the threat of nuclear winter.

Sagan also published literally hundreds of technical articles and books in the fields of astronomy and exobiology.
Sagan did not suffer from cancer, but rather from a very bad blood disease that required bone-marrow transplants in a long-ongoing, and eventually vain, effort to save his life. All of his transplants were donated by his sister, his only sibling, who tested out as an excellent match for Dr. Sagan's bone marrow. DAW 72.146.34.240 01:49, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal[edit]

I've removed the following from the page: Both seemed out of place and not appropriate for this particular article. There was a reference above it, I'm not sure if that was in the article previously or if it was meant to reference the section that I removed. Both the section that I removed and the reference are below:

[1]

On October 18, 2004, Robert F. Hickey, Ph.D., was to be the first person to receive a kidney transplant through a new means of identifying altruistic, non-related, living donors. The surgeon, Igal Kam, who had never seen Dr. Hickey prior to the day of surgery, cancelled the transplant 30 minutes after it was to have begun because he didn't like how Hickey found a donor. International and local media pressure forced the hospital in Denver as well as the surgeon to approve the transplant which took place on October 20, 2004. Hickey received his kidney from a part time photographer, 32 year old Robert S. Smitty of Cleveland, TN. Hickey's break through surgery has led to 63 other transplants arranged through MatchingDonors.com. --ImmortalGoddezz 02:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Denver Post Oct. 18, 19, 20, 21, 2004

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Sustained spike in readership?[edit]

There seems to have been a sustained spike in readership of this article. According to this chart the spike occurred between January 5 and 6, 2017. before the spike there were 0 to 5 views per day. After the spike there were 40 to 60 and more per day. In trying to figure out why this might be, I discovered that in France as of January 1, 2017, all French nationals are automatically organ donors upon their death, unless they opt out. Any other thoughts? Verne Equinox (talk) 19:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Notable recipients of transplants OUGHT to include...[edit]

Notable recipients of transplants OUGHT to include... Whoever has survived the longest after receiving the transplant! We might like to know if anyone has lived for (e.g.) forty years after having received a heart, liver, or kidney transplant!
Perhaps there is an infant who received a heart transplant 50 years ago, and the adult person is still alive now.
Also, I have heard of a very young boy in South America who received a corneal transplant from a (deceased) old man (70+ years old), 70 years ago, and that boy is still a living adult now. That means that his cornea is 140+ years old, and it is the oldest piece of living human tissue that there ever has been. I surely believe that this is a notable accomplishment and experience! Someone please look up the details and record them here.47.215.188.197 (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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