Talk:List of mergers in Tokyo

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This article does not seem complete. On the page of Oshima it is explained that six villages were combined to Oshima town in 1955.

Maybe the article as further omissions.--Ratzer (talk) 20:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, I have found evidence of further omissions. The Volcano Islands were a separate municipality until 1940, when amalgamated with Ogasawara, Tokyo. Some time before, Ishinomura and Nishimura on North Iwo Jima within the Volcano Islands had been separate municipalities, as the ending of their names on -mura suggests.--Ratzer (talk) 12:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The list is rather obviously not complete. Tokyo consisted of well over 150 municipalities (1 city, 16 towns, >160 villages) in 1893 (after the transfer of the "three Tama" [counties] (san-Tama) when Tokyo reached its current extent except for minor border changes), and today there are only 62 remaining (26 cities, 23 special wards, 5 towns, 8 villages since 2001). So, the omissions actually make up the majority of mergers in Tokyo. --Asakura Akira (talk) 07:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the list of the mergers of Tokyo is imcomplete; as well as the mergers list pages of ALL other prefectures alike. I hopefully pray that one day someone (like one or two or more) would dedicate a project to possibly complete ALL of the prefectures' mergers/dissolutions of districts and municipalities since like the Meiji restoration (a.k.a. 1868, where the provinces were abolished and the then-300+ prefectures were established). However, it would take forever with key factors such as dominance of the Japanese language in terms of understanding and translating correctly (Google translation won't work, I've tried that), and knowing the history of those mergers/dissolutions. The only pure key reference I know so far is via the Japanese version of Wikipedia. jlog3000 (talk) 11:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If it is of use (at least in breaking the sino-latin script barrier): In the German Wikipedia, there is now a sortable list of former municipalities in Tokyo. It should be comprehensive and cover all mergers, name changes and status changes (village→town→city) – though in long lists, there are bound to be a couple of typos and (few, I hope) other mistakes waiting for helpful Wikipedia users to correct them. I created the list based on that high school teacher's website we already discussed on my talk page. As far as I can see after a few tedious rounds of backup checks, that is in agreement with municipal websites and other official sources, as well as the list in the Japanese Wikipedia. --Asakura Akira (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Despite I don't understand nor speak German, but I will check it out to see if most of those are nearly equivalent to the English counterparts; just as long as it's almost well-done. I swear, I'm not sure I have this feeling or not, but I think I feel seriously interested to investigate and apply about the municipality mergers/dissolutions as part of the Japan WikiProject. Remember, it started with like over 70,000 localities (before the 1889 modern municipality system) and over 1,200 districts/counties; just wanna point that out as a reminder. And no matter what, I would try hard to make this possible (slowly, but steadily). jlog3000 (talk) 11:24, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not quite equivalent; but since it is sortable, the status upgrades and name changes should be fairly easy to filter out.
My steps would be to to sort first by the „bis“ ("to") column, i.e. the year of dissolution, and then by the „Auflösungsgrund“ ("reason of dissolution") column. In the latter,
  • „Eingemeindung“ are ordinary mergers of one municipality into another,
  • „Eingemeindung (Neugründung)“ are the shinsetsu gappei (新設合併, "new establishement mergers") already mentioned on this page where several muncipalities merge to form a new one,
  • „Eingemeindung (Teilung am Arakawa)“ are the early 20th century splits of municipalities along the future Arakawa canal (now called Arakawa, the old lower Arakawa is now called Sumidagawa), and
  • „Eingemeindung („Groß-Tokio“)“ are the Dai-Tōkyō mergers into Tokyo City in 1932.
Then you can go through each of these relevant categories chronologically.
So, unless the list is accidentally incomplete, the first merger in Tokyo after the indroduction of the Prussian-style municipalities in ’89 and the transfer of the Tama area from Kanagawa in ’93, was the 1901 merger of Kuwata (village) in South Tama (district) into Hino (town), today part of Hino (city). – And that is probably a minor error, because the ja.wikipedia (which is more likely to be right on this; but to be sure one has to look at the history sections of current municipal websites, in this case Hino City: History, or worse, sometimes dig through other sources) says that this was a "new establishment merger" of old Hino (town) and Kuwata (village) to form a new Hino (town). But aside from the type of merger, it is in agreement. Second comes the 1908 merger of Yokota (village) in North Tama (district) into Nakatō (village), today part of Musashi-Murayama (city) – again the ja.wikipedia states this was a new establishment not an ordinary merger, but agrees on the merger itself. Third is the "new establishment" merger of Mizuho (village) and Ichinoe (village) in South Katsuhika (district) into a new Mizue (village), today part of Edogawa ([special] ward/"city") – ja.wp agrees. And so on...
The other categories (mainly „Umbenennung“, name changes, and „Aufwertung“, upgrades from village to town to city) are usually not included in the en.wikipedia lists of municipal mergers although I included some in the Tokyo list, but that can easily be undone. --Asakura Akira (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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