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The Old Town of Hebron has just been declared a "World Heritage Site"[edit]

FYI: User:Jeppiz, User:Huldra, someone ought to add the newest member of the "World Heritage Site," the Old Town of Hebron, based on this UPI article: UNESCO declares Hebron, West Bank, a world heritage site. This was the 41st session of UNESCO, this time held in Poland.---Davidbena (talk) 15:24, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The UNESCO has currently official designated Hebron as a WHS site in Palestine, not Israel,[1] which as caused some controversy.[2] I suggest on waiting on actually adding it to this page. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:54, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine and Israel, are not they one and the same country, I mean, historically speaking? I don't see what the problem is, other than semantics (or perhaps those who want to politicize the issue). Even Jews living in the country prior to 1948 were called Palestinians. To impugn any Jewish historical connections to the Cave of the Patriarchs, at least according to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, is an “affront to history.” See UNESCO puts Hebron on endangered heritage list, outraging Israel.---Davidbena (talk) 18:52, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Based on those related discussions within the past few weeks (including Talk:Cave of the Patriarchs/Archive 1#Categorisation with respect to status as World Heritage Site, Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Wikipedia:Naming conventions (West Bank), and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive291#Wikipedia:Naming conventions (West Bank)) you currently appear to be in the minority. Thus, this article should currently remain consistent with those other pages, and omit Herbron for now (or else you'd essentially just be moving your content dispute from there to over here). Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moving the title (without Jerusalem)[edit]

Hello. This article should be moved to another title, since it includes Jerusalem as part of Israel, which is considered contrary to international law, as East Jerusalem is occupied since 1967 in accordance with United Nations resolutions. Also, this name is contrary to the standards of UNESCO itself, as this organization considers the Al-Aqsa Mosque part of the Arab-Islamic heritage in the Holy City. Finally, this Palestinian site is proposed by the government of Jordan since 1981, and is not included in the classification of any of the parties.

Therefore, I demand that the title of this article should be moved to the original one (World Heritage Sites in Israel), where the Jerusalem paragraph will be removed accordingly. Freedom's Falcon (talk) 11:19, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This page was moved, AFAIK without any discussion, on 12:45, 29 May 2020.

Seriously; this is not good: to make such a controversial move in a very controversial area without any discussion?? I guess they hoped it would "fly under the radar", (which indeed it did, for a while.....) Huldra (talk) 23:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this was discussed previously (Template talk:World Heritage Sites in Israel and Jerusalem#RfC: Should the Old City of Jerusalem and the Walls of Jerusalem be included in this template and subsequent decision about renaming). It was about template, not this list, but I do not think that any discrepancy makes sense. On the opposite, you moved this page back, "without any discussion" and after more than a year passed since previous move. --Hwem (talk) 14:37, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We could have an RM (on the theory that moving these sort of articles might be controversial) but looking at that template discussion, what would be the point? There's only one possible conclusion and one assumes that the equally undiscussed move to "...and Jerusalem" was some sort of attempt to get around that? Selfstudier (talk) 14:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]