Talk:List of Victoria Cross recipients (A–F)

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Propose merging three lists.[edit]

Currently we have List of Victoria Cross recipients (A–F), List of Victoria Cross recipients (G–M) and List of Victoria Cross recipients (N–Z)

While a combined list would be long, it would be advantageous for the reader to have all this data in one place in one article. One of the benefits would be to allow the reader to click to arrange the table in terms of "data of action", and see the full chronological list. LukeSurl t c 21:20, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:TOOBIG I don't think these should be merged. This article is already 120k - in fact we could do with a further split to go from three articles to four in order to bring each below 100k. Miyagawa (talk) 20:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:TOOBIG policy states that "These rules of thumb only apply to readable prose ... [and] apply less strongly to list articles, especially if splitting them would require breaking up a sortable table." This is a prime example of this point. --LukeSurl t c 21:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support Suggest prose, references and links should go since it is duplicated from the main article. Only note A should stay. Anthony Staunton (talk) 00:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think they should be merged as the combined list is simply too large and unmanageable. I would love for it to be one list but technical limitations mean it is not feasible. The load time is horrendous. Scrolling that length is again not very reader-friendly. A combined page would be the 14th largest page on Wikipedia. TOOBIG states that it applies "less strongly" but it still applies. Woody (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree, the merge would increase load times. This is especially bad if you want to read the list on a mobile device. I therefore oppose the merge. MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Posthumous awards[edit]

Someone more confident with tables than myself might like to include these updates. There were 26 posthumous awards prior to the First World War and all are listed as posthumous awards in the comprehensive three volume VC and GC: The complete history published in 2013. There were twelve memoranda awards. Five for the Indian Mutiny - Everard Aloysius Lisle Phillipps, William George Hawtry Bankes, Duncan Charles Home, Edward Spence and Philip Salkeld; two Zulu War - Nevill Josiah Aylmer Coghill and Teignmouth Melvill; one NW Frontier - Hector Lachlan Stewart MacLean; one Rhodesia - Frank William Baxter and three South Africa - David Reginald Younger, Herman Albrecht and Robert James Thomas Digby-Jones. The first three official posthumous awards in 1902 for South Africa were to Alfred Atkinson, John Barry and Gustavus Hamilton Coulson. In addition, there were eleven other awards where the recipient died before his award was gazetted. Crimean War soldier John Connors died a month before his award was published in the first list of recipients and six Indian Mutiny recipients died before gazettal - Patrick Mahoney, James Park, Robert Newell, David Hawkes, John Purcell, John Ryan. Another John Ryan died in New Zealand before gazettal. Walter Richard Pollock Hamilton was killed in Afghanistan before his award was gazetted but the notice was dated 1 September 1979 to give the impression it was not a posthumous. The final two awards for South Africa to Frederick Hugh Sherston Roberts and Francis Newton Parsons are the first to include (since deceased) are their names. Anthony Staunton (talk) 02:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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