Talk:List of UK minor party and independent MPs elected

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Old discussions[edit]

When I created this article the 1945 general election seemed like a reasonable cut-off point. I am not in principle opposed to extending it further back than this, but we could run into problems. There were a number of diverse candidates elected from fringe parties during the war, and going slightly further back you could run into problems putting party labels on some candidates during the National Governments of the 1930s, and with the coalition govt. in 1918. PatGallacher 00:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be interesting to list the diverse candidates elected in the 1940s and 30s. I know that there are some doubtful cases earlier, but if we agree to use the definitions in Craig, we can then add footnotes on any which are unclear. We already have a list of seats which changed hands in by-elections running back to 1918, and lists of MPs elected in most general elections back to the mid-20s, so getting started should be quite easy. On a separate note, I'd like to have a separate list in this article on NI MPs - excluding from it UUP, DUP, SDLP and Sinn Fein MPs, as these are currently the major parties. Warofdreams talk 18:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the list is stretching back into the 19th century I think the Nationalist Party should also be treated as a major party (and given its own list). Timrollpickering 14:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. I will work on this when I have more internet access. Warofdreams talk 15:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Title of article[edit]

The current article title is a little confusing; it could include MPs who stood for major parties but were not elected. It also excludes the Northern Ireland MPs who are now listed. How about changing the title to List of UK minor party and independent MPs? Any other ideas? Warofdreams talk 11:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it could do with a change, but saying "elected" at least emphasises that these MPs were actually elected as independents, unlike the many Lib/Lab/Con MPs who have defected during a parliament. Perhaps List of independent or minor party MPs elected in the United Kingdom? (Jeez...) sjorford (talk) 11:23, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

1935 - Runciman a National?[edit]

Walter Runciman St Ives National

This seems bizarre - Runciman was one of the Liberal National Cabinet Ministers at this point. What basis is there for listing him as merely a National? (His election was unopposed.) Timrollpickering 14:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He was described as a National MP on a website which looked credible, but there seems to be no supporting evidence and I can't find the website again. I've removed him from the list; thanks for finding the error. Warofdreams talk 00:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feargus O'Connor - Liverpool Scotland[edit]

The list has O'Connor being returned as MP for Liverpool Scotland in 1847. However the seat was not created until 1885 and there is no record of him being elected for Liverpool either. So either we need to know which constituency he was actually elected to, if at all or he needs to be removed from the list. Galloglass 07:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted; it was Nottingham - see [1]. Warofdreams talk 01:43, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MacLeod, Ross and Cromarty 1945 & 1950[edit]

Please see Ross and Cromarty (UK Parliament constituency)#MacLeod for discussion of discrepencies between that article and this one. Timrollpickering 03:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"British" MPs[edit]

While it is factual to say that Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and not Great Britain, it is also true that "British" is a demonym for all things related to the UK. As such I propose that this section is retitled "Great Britain (excluding Northern Ireland)". 195.171.25.206 (talk) 15:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "MPs elected in Great Britain" would be better. "Great Britain (excluding Northern Ireland)" is redundant and very wordy. Warofdreams talk 23:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Might it be worth merging the two sections and therefore create on United Kingdom list, as the title of the article would suggest? Nerdfighter Reed 10:40, 15 January 2017 (GMT)

The list for Northern Ireland, post-1950, is longer than that for Britain, so I think it's much easier to understand with the separate lists. Warofdreams talk 15:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvia Hermon[edit]

Regarding this edit, Sylvia Hermon does not belong in the "Great Britain" section of this page. She is listed in the "Northern Ireland" section because her constituency is in Northern Ireland. Yes, she is a member of the UK parliament, but everyone listed on this page was elected to the UK parliament. The page is divided into sections for Great Britain, Northern Ireland, and Ireland (for pre-1922 MPs), because the major parties in Great Britain don't usually contest elections in Northern Ireland, nor vice versa. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I should have paid more attention. Opera hat (talk) 02:26, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Liberal Unionists[edit]

The article describes the Liberal Unionists as a forerunner of the Liberal Democrats. This is not the case. They split from the old Liberal Party and eventually merged with the Conservative Party (giving them the Unionist part of their name). The forerunners for the Liberal Democrats should be the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Party. 46.233.82.125 (talk) 16:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It could be better worded, but the Liberal Unionist Party is a separate entry in the list to the Liberals Democrats and its forerunners. Warofdreams talk 21:16, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]