Talk:List of Nazis (A–E)

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Sourcing[edit]

Axis Biographical Research is a self-published defunct website by amateur historians and WWII buffs. The authors are not recognized experts in the field, and have not been previously published by reputable, independent, third-party publications. Stengerhistorica and Specialcamp11 are more of the same. Abovetopsecret is user-generated "alternative" views. Per WP:RS and WP:SPS, these kinds of sources cannot be used as references for Wikipedia articles. The most they can be used for is as External Links. ABR has an extensive bibliography, which is what it is actually most useful for in terms of sourcing Wikipedia articles. If the sources it cites qualify as reliable sources and support specific information in this article, then those are the sources that should be cited, with specific reference to which information, which source, which page, and not a self-published amateur website. Anybody can start a webpage and post an extensively-researched article on it...but that does not mean that it is a reliable source. There were literally hundreds of articles at Wikipedia sourced to these sites, all done several years ago when Wikipedia wasn't so scrupulous about sourcing. That is no longer the case. The editor who repeatedly keeps restoring these references has been repeatedly warned in the past about edit warring on these WWII-related articles, and has thus far made no effort to discuss the issue, which is, frankly, open-and-shut. Fladrif (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mistaken Identity[edit]

It appears that at least one name on the list is mistaken: Carl Ludvig Engel. Someone appears to have just linked to another person with the same name without checking whether or not it is even feasible that they are a Nazi. Carl Ludvig Engel died in 1840, long before Nazis even existed.

The source used to justify the association simply refers to the 50th anniversary of the death of a Dr. Carl Engel in 1997. No additional names given. Engel is a very common last name and Carl is a very common first name. The year of passing also does not match and he did not obtain a doctorate that would justify him being referred to with the title of "Doctor" (neither a medical degree or an corresponding academic degree).

From what I can gather the Carl Engel that is likely meant is Carl Friedrich Wilhelm Engel. He does not appear to have an English Wikipedia entry. The German Wiki entry simply refers to him as Carl Engel. He obtained a doctorate in history, worked in the Nazi administration and was a leading figure in the looting of historic artefacts from conquered territory on the Eastern Front. The Soviets interned/arrested him and he died in captivity in 1947 - this would match the 50. anniversary of his death in 1997.

I therefore suggest removing the link to Carl Ludvig Engel.

2A02:8388:CC1:5E00:294C:3F61:51C5:BBA0 (talk) 11:13, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2024[edit]

Josh Breen NorwegianSchoolBoy (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 23:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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