Talk:List of Catholic dioceses in Great Britain

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On 13 August 2018, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of Catholic dioceses in Great Britain to List of Catholic dioceses in the United Kingdom. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Thanks for the excellent job Yorkshirian. :) Benkenobi18 (talk) 21:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes[edit]

Where are all the maps of the dioceses? This page has been drastically changed, completely reformatted. There are links to this page that are now redundant. Yet, there has been no explanation about why the changes were made. Edit summary and this talk page have not been used. Looking at the article I can see little that has been added except that there is now one table instead of several. I am now reverting this. Pjposullivan (talk) 02:43, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Headings[edit]

When future changes are made to this article, please keep the headings 'Ecclesiastical province of Birmingham', 'Ecclesiastical province of Cardiff', 'Ecclesiastical province of Liverpool', 'Ecclesiastical province of Southwark' and 'Ecclesiastical province of Westminster'. They are all linked to by Province of Birmingham, Province of Cardiff, Province of Liverpool, Province of Southwark and Province of Westminster. As you can see in the 'What links here' in the left-hand column, each of these links appear in numerous articles. The purpose of those links will be lost if the headings are removed. Pjposullivan (talk) 03:31, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Subordinate treatment of Scotland[edit]

Wouldn't it be better to have two separate articles: "List of Catholic dioceses in England and Wales" and "List of Catholic dioceses in Scotland"? Since Great Britain is neither an ecclesiastical unit nor a civil jurisdiction, there seems no good reason to have one article covering two independent hierarchies that are of equal dignity in the eyes of the Church. If a single article is necessary then there should at least be equivalent treatment. Instead, the article is "Part of a series on the Catholic Church in England and Wales". The reader is accordingly treated to not one, but two, photographs of Westminster Cathedral. The 1850 recreation of the hierarchy in England and Wales is discussed in the introduction, without even a passing mention of the restoration of the Scottish hierarchy in 1878. And the navigational template at the foot of the page is confined to "Roman Catholic dioceses in England and Wales"! All this is likely to confuse and mislead the casual reader. 90.253.200.122 (talk) 23:45, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 August 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move, therefore, not moved. Not relisted as the page name is based upon the fact that the roman catholic church calls it that and that Northern Ireland is not part of this group of catholic dioceses. (closed by non-admin page mover) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 15:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Catholic dioceses in Great Britain → List of Catholic dioceses in the United Kingdom – Archaic. Per WP:CONSISTENCY in accordance with United Kingdom, as well as Catholic Church in the United Kingdom. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:44, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This is an exception as the Catholic Church organises its dioceses in Northern Ireland with those in the Republic of Ireland instead of with those in Great Britain. Consistency therefore does not apply here. The use of Great Britain is in no way archaic in any sense. It simply refers to Britain (i.e. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, to give our nation its full title) exclusive of Northern Ireland, as here. The term is very much still in use. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Necrothesp, it even states that those in NI are at List of Catholic dioceses in Ireland. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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