Talk:Law & Order: Criminal Intent

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Needs much work[edit]

The article has more sentences that need work than almost any other article I've seen. Many clauses are misplaced, or commas missing, in such a way that the intended meaning is significantly changed.Daqu (talk) 05:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Goldblum[edit]

Logan back to Staten Island?

"Jeff Goldblum is set to replace Chris Noth next season on "Law & Order: Criminal Intent."

Like Noth, Goldblum will be seen in half of the series' episodes; discussions are ongoing with Vincent D'Onofrio to continue headlining the other half."

Added to article? —DeviantSolution (talk • contribs) 15:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Serena southerlyn as ADA confirmation?[edit]

Someone put her in the diagram, yet this is not confirmed through any citation or reference in her character bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.31.232.196 (talk) 05:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Goren's Junior Status[edit]

For the record, I posted this message to a user's talk page, since they keep asking for "proof" that Goren is the junior detective (he's never been otherwise; people just assume):

Goren has always been the junior partner since episode one. A recent episode (I believe it was season six's Brother's Keeper) confirmed this is still the case when the murder suspect taunts Goren at a critical moment in Goren's personal life, calling him a loser and saying Goren is just upset because others are better than him and he will never even make "senior partner." That is the evidence: actual dialogue in an episode. Now, if you have dialogue from season seven which contradicts this, please present it. Otherwise, you are just being inaccurate.

Unless someone can provide evidence otherwise, Goren should be left at junior partner. Doing otherwise is just being inaccurate at best and engaging in original research at worst. Redfarmer (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he is junior partner. I can't cite episode and verse, but I've watched the show since its inception and that's a fact that has once in a while been mentioned on the show.Daqu (talk) 05:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Patricia Kent[edit]

  • I added Patricia Kent to the main characters chart. Even though she was only in 2 episodes i believe that she is stil a main character for being in the credits sequence.
  • But... she wasn't in the credits sequence. JuJube (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Weird. How did I miss this? I remember expecting her to show up in the credits but she never did. x_x JuJube (talk) 23:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Those are fan made. Not official credits. Redfarmer (talk) 23:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zack Nichols not Zach Nichols[edit]

According to the Criminal Intent website, ci.usanetwork.com, Jeff Goldblum's character is named Zack. The main article has his name spelled with an H at the end. Jcsavestheday (talk) 16:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)jcsavestheday[reply]

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters[edit]

A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Better to refer to a specific time or date than use the word "currently"[edit]

One passage in the article reads as follows:

"Hollywood Reporter reported that the USA Network is currently finalizing a deal for the ninth season of Law & Order: Criminal Intent.[5] Later, it was reported that D'Onofrio, Erbe and Bogosian would be leaving the series.[6]"

Using the word "currently" to describe a time frame in a Wikipedia article is a very bad idea, since people are likely to read the article a good while afterwards without knowing what "currently" means -- as is the case here. Whoever used the word "currently" didn't even bother to mention when currently was. (I recognize that researching the reference(s) might determine when "currently" was, but that is entirely beside the point.)

In fact, having one sentence use "currently" to describe its time frame, and the next sentence start with "Later", is downright ludicrous.

ALSO: That part of the article describes deliberations over the fate of the program, but never completes the chronology (at least not up to the present: Jan. 3, 2010). We only find out later in the article -- by reading the table of various phases in the show's history -- that the show in fact *is* at this point scheduled to begin its next season of new episodes in March of this year. This is disjointed writing.Daqu (talk) 06:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Related Shows Section in Infobox[edit]

I've started a thread about the related shows section of the infobox on this page and what defines a related show here. All are invited to participate in the discussion. Redfarmer (talk) 12:05, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incomprehensible sentence[edit]

In a discussion of the season scheduled to begin March 30, 2010, one sentence reads:

"The series was renewed for a ninth season to be aired in March 2010 when D'Onofrio and Erbe will cast at the end of the two-hour season premiere."

Can someone explain what the phrase "will cast" means here? Better yet, can someone who knows what meaning is intended please rewrite the sentence so that it is comprehensible? Thanks.Daqu (talk) 07:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Theme[edit]

Hi

In the article it states "For its move to the USA Network, the "heavier" sounding version of the Law & Order: CI theme ..."

I am not sure how the "heavier" got in there - or if it should stay. If anything it's more like it went from a fairly god modern style to a 90's sound lol :¬)

Chaosdruid (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed. I'd dispute the neutrality of that sentence without a citation. I'll go ahead and add a citation-needed tag. Traveliter (talk) 10:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incomprehensible paragraph in History section[edit]

Someone posted the following:

"On July 4, 2010; The Edmonton Journal describes the history of Law & Order: CI from its style and cast members along with comparing the NBC years to the show's current state on the USA Network. Saying things like, "Ratings for both programs eroded over time, though (Law & Order). NBC shuffled Law & Order: CI off to its USA Network two years ago, where it had to compete for attention with the likes of lightweight clinkers such as Monk, Burn Notice and Royal Pains. It was decided that D'Onofrio and Erbe weren't hip enough for the U.S. cable network's audience, which likes its crime shows light as a feather and slightly on the goofy side." and "Goldblum has a unique way about him, and this is a very different show with him playing detective. Whether it's better is up to you [the viewer] to decide."[1]"

at the very bottom of the History section. I've tried to figure out why this was placed here, and to be honest I don't think this paragraph belongs in the article at all. I'd like to flag this for deletion, please. Traveliter (talk) 10:56, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/movie-guide/reinvents+itself/3233924/story.html

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