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CBE

Why did he decline the CBE? Meursault2004 21:13, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The same reason as everybody else who rejects those honours I suppose, I don't think anyone was shocked. Rje 14:34, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)
... and that is? Meursault2004 17:39, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"Cleese declined the British honour of Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)" Both? It was either a CBE or an OBE. I think that needs correcting and those links a bit of sorting out Stephenjh 05:39, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Both? No, only one: CBE stands for Commander of the Order of the British Empire, and OBE for Officer of the Order of the British Empire. "Order" doesn't get an initial (don't ask me why; but this seems to be a common source of confusion, especially in the US). Paul Magnussen (talk) 00:19, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I couldn't find any information on the reasons he gave. Does anyone know? Juggertrout (talk) 23:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

SO THE REASON IS????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.33.150.85 (talk) 04:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Ancestry

I have removed the line "Cleese's ancestors originally come from Wales, where some of his distant family still live." Neither of the two sources cited in support (a page on "Everything2" and a Rolling Stone article called "John Cleese's Towering Legacy") makes any mention of any Welsh ancestry.Shiresman (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Filmography is far more extensive than given here

Suggest a possible split out of his "business training" films, at some stage.

Any more information on John Cleese?

Cleese did a short sketch in a danish television show - "Casper og Mandrilaftalen" (http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_og_Mandrilaftalen) introducing the "purple gunrack of love"

Great! though may I just say that perhaps Fawlty Towers deserves a mention in the opening paragraph?!

Not to base him around that, but just a suggestion, it was after all perhaps his most critically acclaimed individual masterpiece when he is allowed to take much if not the vast majority of the writing credit. Also, may I just say, John Cleese is the Lord our God. Thats an infinite fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.65.242.154 (talk) 13:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I find myself wondering about the nature of finite facts ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:8290:2A69:88E6:9313:E39D:D7F (talk) 15:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

lacks his presence in the harry potter movies?60.230.199.237 08:57, 23 September 2005 (UTC) he was also in rat race but that wasn't added —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.180.219.35 (talk) 04:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I found an unknown (to me) short film with & by Cleese: "The Strange Case of the End of Civilization as We Know it." It is 55 minutes, released by White Star video and was produced by Shearwater Films. 1977. Written by Jack Hobbs, Joseph McGrath, John Cleese. Stars Cleese, Connie Booth, Stratford Johns and several other well known British actors. The plot has Cleese as Sherlock Holmes' grandson sent to solve the crime of Moriarty's grandchild. Not terribly funny (to me) and the production values were not high. ~CMAC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.138.105 (talk) 03:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

he was also in rat race but that wasn't added

2006 L’Entente cordiale stars as Lord Conrad Bruce http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450615/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.54.160.234 (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Current life

What is he doing now?

He lives not in Santa Barbara, but in the hills above it. He lives in Montecito, California. I actually stayed overnight in the house right next door to him. His neighbor says that he is really cool.

Whereabouts should the fact that he had a voice acting part in BioWare's Jade Empire go? Filmogragphy? 16:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Clinical depression?

I removed the Category:People diagnosed with clinical depression.

I found no reference to depression in the Article, much less a clinical diagnosis of one.

Michael David 23:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

John Cleese in TBS ads?

On TBS's ads "to determine what's funny", John Cleese is the guy in the lab coat throwing oranges at the guy in underwear, is he not? I am sure that was him, if it wasn't then it was his twin.

Yes, I believe that was John Cleese. Rshu 01:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

"comic"

"Many considered this to be the perfect tribute to his friend and comic partner." - when talking about the Chapman eulogy. In my mind, "comic" means "funny". As in, "the comic escapades of Bruno McFly". Should this be changed to "comedic"? Ah, bollocks, I'll do it anyway, if anybody wants to revert it, they can. riana 10:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Other use of the "Kim Bread" alias

It may be worth noting that when Cleese agreed to appear in City of Death, he asked the Radio Times to be credited as Kim Bread, and they declined. Anyone who knew this also knew that "Kim Bread" in Starship Titanic WAS indeed Cleese (which Adams later admitted anyway). The former story can be found in a couple of books about Doctor Who (but none that I have here with me right now...) --JohnDBuell 21:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Institute for Backup Trauma internet commercial

John Cleese appears in this commercial, which can be accessed here: http://www.backuptrauma.com/ It seems to me that this commercial is significant for being the first (only?) commercial to [i]exclusively[/i] make use of the internet as an advertising medium but I'm not qualified to judge this. Should it be included in this article? MCSmarties 15:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Books section?

Wouldn't it help to list his two books with Robin Skynner, "The Rectorial Address of John Cleese" and other script books like "The Strange Case of the End of Civilisation As We Know It" and "Faulty Towers", with edtition and ISBN, like we find at Terry Jones' article (or maybe also some of his great articles on comedy) in a separate section after filmography? "Don't want to read the biography? Tough luck!" OK, it's absolutely John Cleese style, but still they would be more obvious for some hasty seeker looking for them in particular. Hoverfish 22:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, a bibliography section makes sense. The same counts for Eric Idle since you asked it there too. I already did a (not complete yet I think) bibliography at Michael Palin. Garion96 (talk) 22:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I have tried to find some possible connection of Cleese to the Bedknobs and Broomsticks film (the original book is too old to even consider). I don't find him having done any voices or played and role. I think this doesn't belong in Bibliography or elsewhere in this article. Hoverfish 06:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find it either. Therefore, for now, I removed it from the article. Garion96 (talk) 11:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
It was added earlier today by an IP address user. Always be suspicious of their entries. Wahkeenah 11:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Knowledge of German

John Cleese is quite well-versed in German. Anybody knows where and when he learned it? It's worth mentioning.Hoverfish 17:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't he speak Russian as well? I'm sure he mentioned it in the commentary for A Fish Called Wanda. I could quite easily be wrong... Eelio 16:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

2006 biography entry

Provided that John Cleese has given all kinds of statements to the press, Gazzalon's entry might be correct. Yet I couldn't find the London Times interview to verify. As for the 2007 claim, where does it originate from? Can some more precise citations be given? Hoverfish 20:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, that was quite an answer! Thank you 80.177.15.26. :) Hoverfish 23:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Picture

That shot of Cleese is terrible. Isn't there another "free use" or "fair use" image that could be substituted? What was wrong with the last one? Wally 23:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Cleese/Cheese?

You can't use everything2 as a reference! Anyway, if JC's father joined the army in 1915, that would mean he was at least 40 when JC was born (far from impossible, but unlikely). Elsewhere, I've heard that it was his grandfather that changed the family name, which the IMDb agrees with ([1]). 213.249.235.86 14:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Michael Palin's Father was 40 when he was born. It wasn't so uncommon in the 40s —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crestville (talk • contribs) 15:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC).
It was John's FATHER that changed Cheese to Cleese when he joined the army. It's quoted by John Cleese in the book: "The Pythons On The Pythons" ( their official autobiography. ). He's also stated it in numerous filmed interviews. ( I wouldn't exactly trust the IMDB to be accurate without providing a source , it is afterall cobbled together by the VoxPopuli! ) Harvey J Satan (talk) 02:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I concur with the above statement, he has stated as much in an interview/appearance on The One Show this evening on BBC 1, Tuesday, 9 December 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.84.5 (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Declined knighthood?

I recall reading somewhere that Cleese had declined a knighthood. Can anyone find a source on this? If so, I think it ought to be added to the article. --Saforrest 22:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Yahoo News: Via AFP:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080722/od_afp/entertainmentbritainmediacleeseanimalsoffbeat_080722150510;_ylt=AtyWR264vKwz0hg.w9Lluy.gOrgF It's not the only source out there but it's the only "news" (rather than "celeb gossip") source I found. -=mini=- (talk) 07:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The British honours system is rather complicated, but it seems that a CBE does not confer the "Sir" title of a knighthood, see Order of the British Empire. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Layout

His biography needs splitting up. At the moment, all information about his life is in one big chunk. It would be good if somebody could split it into sections like "Early Life", "Monty Python" "Film Career" etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aeiou81 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

WTF?!

Someone removed the part in the Trivia section where he voiced the TomTom GPS system. Why? I thought it was cool. Also, was he really the first guy to say 'shit' on British TV? That needs some looking into. Curvebill 01:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:ImSorryIllReadThatAgainCast2.jpg

The image tagging and rationales in this article are a bit of a shambles, and could lead to some of them being removed. There is no source given for Image:ImSorryIllReadThatAgainCast2.jpg, although at a guess it is a BBC promotional photo. Please could someone with knowledge of the show look into this, or the image is likely to be deleted soon. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Titleist

Cleese has been doing titleist ads for years, the note at the end stating "in 2006" is inaccurate. His ads for them go back at least 7 years. 134.53.115.233 11:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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Image

There must be a more recent image we can use. --81.233.196.49 (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Cleese and "I Po"

Cleese, in one of his management series of training videos, used the term "I Po" to describe "putting an idea on the table that had just popped into his head, without any ownership, so that it could be discussed without hurting people's feelings". The idea probably originated with De Bono, but I am trying to track down the CLeese film in which it was included. Does anyone know please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.31.173.2 (talk) 05:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Religion

This page has no mention of religion, and it should considering the attention Life of Brian got. In a documentary on it, Cleese says "I'd been confirmed and I'd sat around for some weeks expecting some golden globe to descend on me, and when it didn't I became fairly atheistical-humanitistic." (From The Secret Life of Brian, which can be found on youtube or any video site). I wouldn't know where to put it in the article, but I think it belongs. --Karuna8 (talk) 16:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Collaborations

John Cleese tends to work well in collaboration (where he tends to be the main star) and so I've added text to the lead section highlighting his collaboration with Connie Booth on Fawlty Towers and with Michael Palin, Jamie Lee Curtis and Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda and Fierce Creatures. --TS 20:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

OCD ?

I'm not quite sure but I kind of recall an article about John Cleese, saying that he had OCD and that's why he was always doing this faces and comical expression. Am I wrong ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.210.9.115 (talk) 02:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

This is not your MySpace page...

Do we really need to include someone's snapshot in this article? I mean, we're all very happy that you were one of the many Bostonians who were picked to be an extra in Pink Panther 2, but your photo adds nothing to the article. MaxVolume (talk) 03:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Supports McCain or Obama?

In the article it states that he supported and donated to John McCain, whereas the article cited it states that it was Barack Obama that he supports. This is probably vandalism and should be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.8.210 (talk) 13:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Height

Cleese is 6'5", not 6'4". Anyone care to refute me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.72.163 (talk) 00:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Hollywood Bowl

Not quite sure how to address this , so rather than change the article , I'll drop the info. here , and the page organizer may do with it as he/she wishes. John Cleese appeared with Monty Python at The Hollywood Bowl in late September of 1980 - I was there - the FILM was released in 1982. The main article doesn't reference "Film" or "Actual Performance" . Which leads to confusion and people still thinking they were there in 1982. Yeah , one digit. Harvey J Satan (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Criticism

If one is going to include a criticism section on Eric Idle, one must also be included on John Cleese

That is a fair comment. However, unless somebody somewhere has already something in the pipeline and intends to make it an early entry under that section, I rather feel that throwing an empty "Criticism" section into the air would be open to misinterpretation. Not to mention an encouragement for spurious contributions. So, perhaps, omission is better than emission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:8290:2A69:88E6:9313:E39D:D7F (talk) 15:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Graham Chapman

I may be wrong, but did Graham Chapman not contract a rare form of spinal cancer, as opposed to throat cancer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.73.45.26 (talk) 23:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Chapman died of throat cancer metastasised to his spine. Cancers are classified by the parent organ, not by where they spread to. Jim Michael (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Citizenship?

It would, if I am not mistaken, be illegal for Cleese to give money to Barack Obama's campaign if he (Cleese, I mean) wasn't a U.S. citizen. (Though, it would be legal for him to work for Obama without being a citizen.) Did Cleese become a U.S. citizen at some point? He has lived in California for many years and has married three American women, so it would not be surprising if he changed his citizenship. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 15:30, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Advertisements for Gigantti group

Over here in Finland he's appearing in a small series of advertisements for the electronic retailer Gigantti. They are part of DSG International. I don't see any of this mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellahulla (talk • contribs) 20:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

It's covered by this sentence: Towards the end of 2009 and into 2010, Cleese appeared in a series of television adverts for the Norwegian electric goods shop chain, Elkjøp. According to the Elkjøp article: Elkjøp trades under several different brands: ... Finland: Gigantti and Markantalo.... Mitch Ames (talk) 02:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Good edit, thanks --Hellahulla (talk) 20:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Death rumour tweets

There's a pile of Twitter (and this edit) that Cleese has died. No actual citable reports as yet - David Gerard (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's face it, you are not famous these days unless you have been wrongly reported dead on Wikipedia. Let's hope that unlike the Norwegian Blue parrot, Mr Cleese has not ceased to be.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:14, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Apart from a bad knee, he was looking fine on the Graham Norton chat show last night. -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
This may not have been vandalism, because for some weird reason there were indeed rumours on Twitter that he was dead. Anyway, thanks to your good work in this edit, he was dead for only one minute before a revert. WP:BLP working as it should.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks - I just got lucky and happened to be watching at the time ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee 11:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
This is mentioned in the Daily Mail today.[2]. However, I cannot find the edit that they refer to, only the one reverted by Boing! said Zebedee.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

"Acrobat" mother

I don't think Cleese's mother was an acrobat. I remember him being interviewed on the NPR show "Fresh Air," and when Terry Gross mentioned that his mother was an acrobat, he burst out laughing. I think he said he fed it to the media at some point as a joke.131.229.61.58 (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Cheers episode listed as both a Major Role & Guest Appearance

It doesn't make sense to have it in both categories and should probably be removed from the Major Roles category — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mt1955 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Maybe should be combined with the "Admiration for black humour" section (somehow)? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Lemurs

I'm not sure whether the "admiration for lemurs" section deserves a whole section to itself. Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.113.153 (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

question???

why didn't Cleese participate in "Not the Messiah" with the other pythons? 70.172.228.13 (talk) 02:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Not the Messiah (He's a Very Naughty Boy) was performed at the Royal Albert Hall on 23 October 2009. John Cleese was the only surviving Python who did not attend.[3] Various reasons have been given for this.[4]--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 04:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The Muppet Show?

The Post-Python section here has a (fairly long) sub-secton on Cleese's appearance on the Muppet Show in 1977, which was added in this series of edits about five years ago. Does anybody know why? Was the appearance of particular significance to his career, or to the development of the Muppet Show itself? If not, a guest appearance should only warrant a sentence or so; anything more is a bit crufty, isn't it? Swanny18 (talk) 20:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

There's been no response to this, so I'll assume the answers are "No", this has no particular significance; and "Yes", it only warrants a sentence or so. I've trimmed this bit back (drastically) and removed the sub-section heading. I trust that is OK with everyone. Swanny18 (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2014

An addition for the "video game credits" section: John Cleese has appeared as "Sir Cadwell" in Zenimax Online Studios' 2014 MMORPG game "The Elder Scrolls Online". Also, Time Troopers 2004 Mr. Cleese is listed after Fable III which is chronologically out of order with the rest of the list. Mythward (talk) 13:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing those two things out, Mythward. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:07, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Fourth divorce?

In the live show that just went out, Palin and Idle (in character as judges) mention that Cleese has been divorced four times, not three. Any truth to that or was it just part of the bit? - Richfife (talk) 19:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Atheist category

Re this edit: In a March 2015 interview, Cleese said "I certainly don't think much of organized religion. I am not committed to anything except the vague feeling that there is something more going on than the materialist reductionist people think." This isn't quite the same as him saying flat out that he is an atheist, so it was removed per WP:BLPCAT.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Residence

I believe he is a Santa Barbara resident part of the year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.84.5 (talk) 21:35, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

True, or funny vandalism?

where he was expelled for a humourous defacing of school grounds - he used painted footsteps to suggest that the statue of General Haig had got down of his stand and gone to the toilet.

same possible vandalism in Clifton College's page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melaen (talk • contribs) 22:19, 6 June 2005 (UTC)

Height

Regarding his 'height', the figures are the same as Douglas Adam's, any coicindence/typos?

In Shopshirs, tnear Ludlow, there are the Clee Hills, the folks from where are noted for their height. I mention it. Whether Cleese is aware of this, I know not, but I mention it just the same.90.171.204.52 (talk) 08:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Father's name Cheese

The claim that "His family's surname was originally Cheese, but his father had thought it was embarrassing and changed it when he enlisted in the Army during World War I" is uncited. I added an IMDB reference which supports the claim, however this was reverted as "IMDb isn't suitable for BLP sourcing". Therefore, as this was the only source I could find, I suggest removing the claim unless another source can be found.— Rod talk 06:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

The Cheese name change appears in various places, but it needs a reliable source. Sometimes these things get repeated even if they are not true, and IMDb is not suitable if a BLP claim is likely to be challenged. IMDb is similar to Wikipedia. This source in the Telegraph is better.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I ran his fathers name through FreeBMD and found Mar 1894, Cheese, Reginald Francis, Barton Regis, [5] but nothing for Cleese. Not proof, but I'm more inclined to believe it.Derek Andrews (talk) 23:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
That's kind of shameless WP:OR that Wikipedia can't really do without. Thanks for looking. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

His current wife

John Cleese Tweeted 2016 03 17

"John Cleese ‏@JohnCleese 3m3 minutes ago My wife,Jennifer Wade,has revealed in an interview that while many people know I am her husband,only a few are aware Eric Idle is her father" https://twitter.com/JohnCleese

Anyone want to add this bit of info to the article? Thanks. 24.204.160.147 (talk) 23:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Bit of a sourcing problem here. Jennifer Wade is Cleese's fourth wife, but the part about her being Eric Idle's daughter is sourced only to this tweet and is hard to find anywhere else. Was Cleese being tongue in cheek here?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Deleted scenes

Shoudnt we add the fact that he was in Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix? He was in a deleted scene. And here is the evidence to say so. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/John_Cleese
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Nicholas_de_Mimsy-Porpington
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Order_of_the_Phoenix_(film) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.173.83 (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Cleese doesn't appear in the full cast list of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film) [6] so it may not be notable enough for a mention here. He may be in a deleted scene, but the sources given above are not really reliable enough.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:18, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
What? But they are the best sources ive got. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.173.83 (talk) 21:29, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Then the info cannot be added unless it is in reliable sources. --‖ Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 04:55, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Fan sites and other wikis are not reliable sources. Also, their content can change over time. I did have a look for a more suitable source mentioning this, but couldn't find one. Also, if a source was found, it would have some WP:TOPIC issues here and it would be more on topic at Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film).--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Well could you do me a little favour and do some digging because i asked John Cleese when i sent him a fan letter and he told me that he was to be in the OOTP but his scenes were cut. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.67.157 (talk) 19:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
This may well be true, but as I said above, it needs reliable sourcing, which there isn't online. Also it's more on topic for the article about the film. Sometimes deleted scenes are on the DVD or Blu-ray, and the sleeve notes for this could be used.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
And like i politely asked can you please do some digging for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.48.110 (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
I've already done some digging to the best of my ability. This is mentioned online but the sources are not reliable enough. If someone has the DVD or Blu-ray of the film, please could they see if there are deleted scenes with Cleese.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:20, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2016

Daughter, Camilla b: 24 January 1984 - add '24 Jan' to side box.

Cite , if you like, tweet by JC himself. "John Cleese ‏@JohnCleese 24 Jan 2014 My beautiful daughter Camilla is celebrating her Birthday today. Happy Birthday BD, I am so proud of you. Love Dad xx" 79.64.2.250 (talk) 21:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MeowMoon (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
I couldn't find this tweet but Camilla Cleese is his daughter. This has some WP:BLPNAME issues as the names of children, dates of birth etc are not really needed unless they add significantly to the article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:31, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Section on career of John Cleese

Should not the section on John Cleese's career mention how he presented a programme called "John Cleese Presents" which went out on BBC Radio Four at 9: 30 on a Wednesday morning in May and June 2017?Vorbee (talk) 17:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Website change

John's website is now https://www.johncleese.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbeckford (talk • contribs)

 Done Sam Sailor 16:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Albion: The Enchanted Stallion

He was in a 2016 movie called "Albion: Enchanted Stallion" but I couldn't find it in this filmography.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandrayda (talk • contribs) 01:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Albion: The Enchanted Stallion doesn't have a Wikipedia article, but it is on IMDb here. Cleese plays General Eeder. Based on the IMDb release info, it looks like this might be a direct-to-video film.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2019

I'd like to propose that (in section Fawlty Towers):

  1. Characters Manuel and Polly ought to be linked to;
  2. Catchprase (or whatever it's) "He's from Barcelona..." ought to be trimmed out - it's unnecessary sidetracking in this there article and sufficiently covered in respective articles about Fawlty Towers and Manuel. Thanks. -90.179.120.43 (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:10, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020

If someone could remove "voice actor" from his occupations sections, that would be good. It's because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work. 2600:1000:B04F:5154:D4AE:DDDD:C5D8:A0DA (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2020

"Voice actor" in the first sentance of the article still hasn't been removed yet, because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work. As shown how it should be here: "is an English actor, voice actor, comedian, screenwriter, and producer." to "is an English actor, comedian, screenwriter, and producer. 2600:1000:B039:1953:A076:752:8884:90F5 (talk) 17:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

please fix the bang bang link

The "Bang bang!" link should point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_Bang!_(play) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.64.249.221 (talk) 23:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

  •  Done: It was going to the correct article but there was a WP:PIPE. The article was renamed in February 2020.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Surname pronunciation

The article currently gives the pronunciation of Cleese as /kliːz/

Do we have a source for this? Because I've always heard his name as being pronounced /kliːs/

Oska (talk) 10:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I've tried, but I can't get the hang of the phonetic stuff. I would simply say that Cleese rhymes with cease and geese. HiLo48 (talk) 10:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
S or Z, now there's a question. It may depend to some extent on the speaker. IPA is never an exact science and is usually given when there is a risk of the name being mispronounced. It's interesting that the family's name was Cheese at one point, and this is definitely with a Z.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
No it doesn't. It rhymes with "these" and "cheese". So the IPA phonetic transcription is correct, as far as I know. Maybe there is a UK/US divergence here? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC) e.g. c/o Michael Parkinson in 2010: [7]
You're right that Parkinson pronounces it with a /z/ and I've just watched a BBC clip where the presenter pronounces his name with a /z/ too when she introduces him. So perhaps I've just been wrong all this time. (Of course, my thinking on the matter is immaterial.) Oska (talk) 12:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
As a life-long UK resident and native English-speaker, and fan of Cleese since my early teens, I've never heard his name pronounced to rhyme with geese. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
This is an interesting problem. In Australia, the name always rhymes with cease and geese. Obviously it's different elsewhere. Wikipedia should probably mention both pronunciations. HiLo48 (talk) 20:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
I think you'll find it's pronounced /bɹuːs/: [8]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

-- Surname source --

Cleese in an interview explains both the "Cheese" variant (his father's surname) and also pronounces his own name: Ref. Ep 01 of "Monty Python - Almost the Truth, the Lawyers Cut" (07min:05sec) link here: https://youtu[dot]be/8jWaXPj4ER4?t=424 which presumably is enough to answer much of the above debate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.67.181 (talk) 11:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

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