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Playtime

According to IMDB, she wasn't in this Jacques Tati film, so I've removed it from her filmography.

Jmcnally 02:46, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

IMDB Bio

The bio on www.imdb.com has some interesting information, but I'm not sure how to verify it. It says that her second child died after only two days, and that she attempted suicide each year on the anniversary (August 25). Since her body wasn't found for 11 days, and her date of death is listed as September 8, this would place her suicide on August 29. I'd like to unravel this mystery.

Jmcnally 16:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

On page 253 of "Played Out" (Random House, 1981) David Richards writes "[on august 23] Jean gave birth by Caesarean to a girl weighing less than four pounds. ... For two days, the infant clung to life. She died early in the morning of August 25."

"Played Out" -- now out of print -- is a highly readable and well-researched biography. Richards also investigated the critical question of the dead baby's paternity. On page 234 he explains that, although she was in the process of divorcing Romain Gary in the spring of 1970, they had had a "reconciliation" in early March and Gary had agreed to assume responsibility for the pregnancy as a result. The true story, however, was that the baby was fathered by Carlos Navarra, a Mexican 'revolutionary' Seberg ran into while shooting the movie Macho Callahan.

El Ingles 18:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Clinical Depression?

I removed this Article from the Category:People diagnosed with clinical depression.

"According to her husband, after the loss of their child she suffered from a deep depression…"

This is not a clinical diagnosis.

Michael David 20:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand, are you saying it's untrue? Or are you saying inclusion in this category requires a note from a doctor? --Kstern999 02:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Persecution by the FBI

I think everybody should read this http://www.saintjean.co.uk/politics.htm in order to insert a chapter on the conspiracy theory about her death. --81.211.175.217 13:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I added that link in the main page and deleted the word 'allegedly'. El Ingles 14:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
very well, thanks! --81.211.175.217 15:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Funny that you're all ignoring the actual content of the FBI documents from that website. It clearly indicates, even taking into account the redacted sections, that Seberg was pregnant by a member of the BPP. It also directly states that she was pregnant by someone other than her husband.

Who do you clowns think you're fooling by leaving all this out of the Wikipedia article?

A lie of omission is still a lie, and that makes all of you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.54.81 (talk) 20:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Just because something is in an FBI memo doesn't make it true, my friend. On the contrary....
194.230.155.11 (talk) 12:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Docudrama on Her

I think it's worth mentioning somewhere at the end there there is a docudrama on her life, directed by Mark Rappaport.

Jean Seberg International Film Festival (JSIFF)

Are you kidding, whoever wrote this? Not one reference?

"It was a lovely event"

What!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.172.222 (talk) 14:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Reference 42

The reference given for "Jean Seberg’s death was ruled more cautiously a 'probable suicide' by the coroner however, because of several unanswered questions," is of questionable credibility. For one thing, that information apparently doesn't actually appear in the blog post proper; it does name these supposed unanswered questions but doesn't say the coroner ruled the death a probable suicide because of this. Instead, someone with the username of Garry McGee, which is the name of the author of a biography about Seberg, wrote a comment on the post saying it.

More problematic is that even the beginning of the article, which is not written by Garry McGee but by someone named Sam Davidson, reveals it clearly has a "white nationalist", often anti-black and antisemitic agenda. The whole purpose of the essay is to try to explain how this white woman could sympathize with minorities and that Jewish influence in America has pushed white culture in that direction. I think this combined with the fact that the page linked to is not written by the cited author and that the comment referred to in the citation is written by someone not verified to be the Jean Seberg biographer in any way should disqualify this as a credible source. Perhaps McGee's book states this assertion that "Garry McGee" makes on the page and it could be cited instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.235.133.59 (talk) 21:11, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox: Suicide or Barbiturate overdose

A recent series of edits/reverts have changed the Cause of death back & forth between Suicide and Barbiturate overdose. The cited reference says that Seberg's death was a suicide, it does not clearly and unequivocally state the cause of death was from an overdose of barbiturates. I was able to find her NY Times obit that says "Police said the 40‐year‐old actress apparently died of a barbiturate overdose." But this was within a day after Seberg's body was discovered, a full autopsy (with the various tests that should entail) could not have been completed yet. So, according to Wikipedia best practices/guidelines, the verifiable facts are that 1)Seberg committed suicide 2)Barbiturate overdose is suspected as the cause of death 3)The article does not state the death was from a drug overdose so "Suicide" is appropriate until an autopsy report is found in a reliable source. Shearonink (talk) 17:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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References

Find a Grave is used as a reference (#26) and is considered unreliable. Otr500 (talk) 10:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The reference for description of family members (#15) appears to link to the biography of a totally unrelated person. This is my first time contributing to Wikipedia. I am not sure how to fix so I post here.Prairiette (talk) 12:26, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

You're right. I've removed the ref. Stu (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Comment On My Change in the "Death" Section

I just made a small change to the "Death" section. Unfortunately, I failed to explain the change in the edit summary.

I substituted "the child's death" for "their child's death". I believe the previous wording ("their child's death") might have confused the reader since Romain Gary wasn't the father of the child born on August 25.

My apologies for omitting the edit summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArthurMIT97 (talk • contribs) 03:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Inconsistent sections about baby born in 1973

The section describing the FBI COINTELPRO investigation mentions that the FBI made up the rumor that Jean Seberg's baby was outside of her marriage, and acknowledged that the rumor was ungrounded. They were successfully able to sue the paper that published the story. However, in the Personal Life section, for some reason it mentions that the baby born in 1973, the same one mentioned in the FBI rumor, was "but the child was actually the product of an affair with a student revolutionary named Carlos Ornelas Navarro." This discrepancy is really confusing to readers, and the facts in the article should remain consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.35.86 (talk) 21:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

This discrepancy needs to be dealt with. Mordekai5 (talk) 05:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

There is no discrepancy. What was false and defmatory in the FBI-planted story was that the father was Raymond Hewitt. Stu (talk) 14:54, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Airport

Airport is mentioned having mixed reviews (don't most movies?) rather than having received 9 Oscar nominations and a win. Why? 179.113.60.191 (talk) 16:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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