Talk:Ivan VI Frankopan

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Where are the sources[edit]

This article needs some serious work. There is no contextual information about this person, there are no sources of any kind listed, and it reads more like a soap opera than history. I will make some improvements.

Coldipa (talk) 15:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I take this back. I found no clear source on the Internet that such a person existed, or at least, who he was:

http://www.hdpz.htnet.hr/broj194/dan_mijatovic.htm Says: Nikola IV., dalmatinsko-hrvatski ban 1426. – 1432., sin kneza Nikole V., kao jedini muški potomak... This says that Nikola's only male heir was Nikola V.

http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popis_hrvatskih_banova List of Croatian Bans has: Ivan i Stjepan Frankopan 1434. - 1436. This mentions two bans, John and Stephen.

This is an interesting original source by "Prince Ivan" of a quit-claim: http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/franki.html

I will leave this problem for someone more expert than me.

Coldipa (talk) 18:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

There's a 2018 merge template up on the pages, which I had closed some months ago on the grounds that there was no case made; Akeosnhaoe has reversed the merge, suggesting in an edit summary that these are the same person. ~~I still oppose the proposal, on the grounds that there is no evidence linking the two names, and the history/description looks rather different.~~ Is there any evidence that these are the same person? For example, sources giving these names as synonyms? Klbrain (talk) 11:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The one source on this page is called "Count Ivan Anž Frankopan, the Royal Steward of the Estate in Sweden 1426 - 1434". It also says "Ivan Anž VI Frankopan was the son of Nicola IV". Akeosnhaoe (talk) 12:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good points; withdrawing objection; happy for the merge to proceed. Klbrain (talk) 10:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 14:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Frankopian"[edit]

I don't see any evidence indicating that "Frankopian" is a valid alternative spelling for Frankopan. The lead sentence of Frankopan family doesn't list it among the other-language alternatives, and Search only finds the spelling in one other article, Eric of Pomerania. I'm assuming it's a misspelling. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, my – look what I found when I went to create a redirect at Ivan Anz Frankopan: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan Anz Frankopan – wbm1058 (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]