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Common ingredients

I was once told that in most of Indonesia, rice, coconut, sago, banana, and cassava are staple ingredients and most meals contain at least a combination of those ingredients (in addition to others). Is this accurate? Would it be possible to incorporate such information into the article? MezzoMezzo 22:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not a crazy claim, to say that a majority of meals contain at least one of those ingredients, but it gives a sort of false unity to the foods of the archipelago.
You see, arguably, there's no such thing as "Indonesian cuisine" in the first place. Such a category implies some sort of imagined-unified formula of food. It's a bit far fetched to link Padang food with Papuan food, but that gets into the heart of the problem: is Papua "really" part of Indonesia? What is "Indonesia?" Having a master "cuisine" helps to concoct a unified people; helps to invent "Indonesians." --Smilo Don 14:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Rice cakes? Help?

Correct me if I'm wrong , but I thought lontong is rice made in banana leaves, and ketupat is made in coconut-palm leaves. Seems there ought to be a page for lontong too. And if you hunt around on WP, there are contradictions in the way we've got them represented. Of course, the contradictions might not be wrong, since the same food name can represent a different food from one place to the next. If someone can help explain this one, I'd be grateful . --Smilo Don 13:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks like we have one of the Lonely Planet food guides as a reference for that, a very good series but I don't have that specific book. Do you happen to own a copy? Do you know roughly what is says about the contents of both dishes? MezzoMezzo 21:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
No LP on hand. But there are plenty of editors--Indonesians, tourists, scholars--who should know a lontong from a ketupat. :) They'll chime in. There's probably a joke in bahasa: What did the ketupat say to the lontong...? (Punchline anyone??) --Smilo Don 14:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

katchang idju

I'm probably spelling it wrong, but what of these little green beans? The only net reference I can find is at www.fepow-community.org.uk/monthly_Revue/html/food.htm+katchang+idju . Chris 08:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

They're mung beans. See id:Kacang_hijau. Badagnani 08:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! Chris 08:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Bumbu

The wiki-page titled "bumbu (cuisine)" has been merged to the "spice" section, currently as the last paragraph. I have fixed some issue in the paragraph. However in my opinion, because the Indonesian cuisine page has been established well, this bumbu paragraph feels like only functioning as a word translation, with redundant information (as already explained well throughout the page). So I think remove this bumbu paragraph entirely is the best move. What other wikiers here think? Wikislemur (talk) 12:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Yup - go for it. --Merbabu (talk) 12:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I merged the paragraph and would have no objections to its being deleted. However, the word bumbu does not appear elsewhere on the page, except in the phrase bumbu kacang. I wonder if a gloss or description of the word might be useful somewhere on the page? Cnilep (talk) 21:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, then we need to decide to what extent our encyclopedia article is also a English-Indonesian dictionary (Kamus Inggris-Indonesia). My view is that we are NOT a dictionary, and while iconic and not easily transferable words like “Bakso” (Meatballs) and “soto” (particular style of chicken soup) can be translated, words with straight substitutes like “rice” and “spice” need translation. --Merbabu (talk) 00:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

To clarify: I am not suggesting a definition or list of definitions. I am merely suggesting that if bumbu is a notable concept relative to Indonesian cuisine (and it may not be), editors should note that it is not mentioned on this page. The earlier suggestion was that the merged content was redundant, not that it was non-notable. All I know about Indonesian cuisine is what I read on Wikipedia. Cnilep (talk) 14:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Peanut Sauce or just Peanut?

I see a contributor here named Haleth change the "Peanut Sauce" section into just "Peanut". Despite I appreciate his/her intention, which I think is to gave wider coverage on peanuts, but let's face it, one of main Indonesian cuisine characterictic is wide applications of peanut sauce; gado-gado, karedok, pecel, satay, etc not plain, baked, fried, or granuled peanuts uses as snack to accompany your beer. "Peanut" is too broad and not specific. If the trends of putting "wider category" went all along, why not change "Coconut Milk" section into "Coconut" altogether? But wait... one of Indonesian cuisine common characteristic is wide uses of "santan" (coconut milk), not just whole elements of "coconut" (es kelapa muda/fresh young coconut ice, cocopandan syrup, nata de coco, tuak/coconut alcoholic beverage, janur/coconut leaf, sabut kelapa/coconut fiber, coconut timber, altogether). I say we should stick on specific characteristic of some of Indonesian signature dishes: "Peanut Sauce" instead of "Peanuts" and "Coconut Milk" instead of Coconut. However I'm open to suggestion, any other opinions or supports for Haleth's or my opinion? Greatly appreciated. (Gunkarta (talk) 13:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC))

Some popular Indonesian dishes such as nasi goreng,[4] gado-gado,[5][6] sate,[7] and soto[8] are ubiquitous in the country and considered as Indonesian national dishes. but you forgot to put "Indo Mie" is a common food eaten every day in addition to rice, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.214.233.19 (talk) 05:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Good article nomination

I've been contemplating to nominate this article for Good Article nomination. I think compared to other cuisine articles, this one is quite comprehensive, detailed and complete. Give me your oppinion, which sections need to be improved. Thank you, best regards.Gunkarta (talk) 13:23, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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What kind of migrating sea bird?

Hi all,

Quite new and been making a few typos and grammatical corrections here and there so far. Just wondered if anyone knew the English or Indonesian name for the bird being referred to in the Meat & Poulty Section?

"...however to a lesser amount, pigeon and wild migrating sea bird are also consumed"

Quite curious to know what I've been eating at random in warungs over the years, as well as improving the entry!

On a side note, if I'm making any etiquette mistakes while editing please let me know; I'm eager to help, especially on an excellent article, don't want to accidentally do anything to upset anyone,

Thanks! Silent Gamelan (talk) 00:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi.., ever eat a fried burung ayam-ayaman (watercock)? that's is one of game bird consumed in Indonesia. Some Indonesian in remote place also might hunt for burung kuntul (heron) for food. I'll elaborate that section. Cheers. Gunkarta  talk  15:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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