Talk:Imants Sudmalis

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Sources[edit]

Please don't simply put in Soviet references without additional verification where Sudmalis' alleged heroics are concerned. —PētersV (talk) 00:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When does the source regarding Rucava indicate that action occurred? —PētersV (talk) 00:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist/activist[edit]

I've restored terrorist as Sudmalis bombed an anti-Soviet protest killing innocent civilians. PētersV TALK 22:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Latvia was under Nazi occupation, not exactly a free country where civilians are allowed to protest whenever and whatever they want. I attributed the claim to the source supporting it (which is not quite a real RS, but is acceptable).Anonimu (talk) 16:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The backdrop was the conference of American and British diplomats in Moscow discussing the landscape of post-war Europe where the Baltics were reportedly being handed over to the Soviets. The protest was in response to that report. I believe that cause and effect lets the bombing stand as an act of terrorism against the civilian population. Latvian civilians died, not Nazi German soldiers. PētersV TALK 19:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Allies regarded them more as quislings, and, while not perfectly legal, killing them was considered excusable. Also, the protest was at least instigated by the Nazis (and obviously approved by them). So the status of the country (i.e. nazi-occupied) should be mentioned in the lead Anonimu (talk) 20:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting the Soviet encyclopedia covers this in the lead. Your contention that the Americans and British looked on the Baltics as people who were traitors to their own countries and killing them was "excusable" (that is, the British and Americans would support such a bombing of civilians) is based on? PētersV TALK 02:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They were participating in a Nazi-sponsored protest against one of the Allies in a Nazi occupied country. How many public protests against the German occupation took place in Nazi occupied Latvia? Anonimu (talk) 09:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(od) I'm not going to argue which regime was more despotic. You know very well the Soviets invaded, plundered, murdered and deported first—including Jews, who suffered proportionally more than any other ethnic group in the Baltics. You also know Stalin was an "Ally" of Hitler first.
Let me know if you have any more comments based on sources regarding the lead. PētersV TALK 14:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I request a mention of the occupant be made in the lead. This is in the source (and is commons sense).Anonimu (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've noted in the quote from the Soviet encyclopedia. This should be fine. PētersV TALK 15:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heinrich Perkons[edit]

Was this his pseudonym or not? Was added, removed, but there's a garbled caption to an image. Please would someone tidy this up. Thanks. PamD (talk) 10:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's difficult to say, probably no. He simply mentioned Imants in his patent, it's important for the understanding of the Imants Sudmalis' life. Denis Tarasov (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify - the caption to the image is incomprehensible. PamD (talk) 19:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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