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Good article (on a technical level), but...

You can expect coverage in Wikipedia to be inversely proportional to the real-world success/penetration [1]. (Also, Ashwood-Smith / User:Peterashwoodsmith who is the major contributor to this article has an obvious WP:COI.) Someone not using his real name (talk) 00:45, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

IEEE 802.1aq Technology Popular Page ranking & page views

Statistics Indicate that Shortest Path Bridging has become a popular Technology.

Period: Rank: Page Views (squid): Page Views (gork): ref:
2015-07-01 — 2015-07-31 (UTC) 282 23081 20102 12
2015-06-01 — 2015-06-30 (UTC) 508 14308 11237 12
2015-05-01 — 2015-05-31 (UTC) 685 12765 9947 12
2015-04-01 — 2015-04-30 (UTC) 672 12793 8605 12
2015-03-01 — 2015-03-31 (UTC) 594 15496 11398 12
2015-02-01 — 2015-02-28 (UTC) 780 9590 7057 12
2015-01-01 — 2015-01-31 (UTC) 822 9403 7154 12
2014-12-01 — 2014-12-31 (UTC) 814 9009 6730 12
2014-11-01 — 2014-11-30 (UTC) 958 7697 5413 12
2014-10-01 — 2014-10-31 (UTC) 971 7898 5676 12
2014-09-01 — 2014-09-30 (UTC) ? ? 5775 12
2014-08-01 — 2014-08-31 (UTC) 909 7430 4966 12
2014-07-01 — 2014-07-31 (UTC) 903 7339 5508 12
2014-06-01 — 2014-06-30 (UTC) 924 7378 5279 12
2014-05-01 — 2014-05-31 (UTC) ? ? 4543 12
2014-04-01 — 2014-04-30 (UTC) 1153 5807 4032 12
2014-03-01 — 2014-03-31 (UTC) 1131 5919 4021 12
2014-02-01 — 2014-02-28 (UTC) 1023 6006 3193 12
2014-01-01 — 2014-01-31 (UTC) 1159 5138 2981 12
2013-12-01 — 2013-12-31 (UTC) ? ? 2777 12
2013-11-01 — 2013-11-30 (UTC) 1467 3481 3225 12
2013-10-01 — 2013-10-31 (UTC) 1491 3216 3129 12
2013-09-01 — 2013-09-30 (UTC) 1470 2951 2875 12
2013-08-01 — 2013-08-31 (UTC) 1472 2437 2840 12
2013-07-01 — 2013-07-31 (UTC) 1379 3633 3343 12
2013-06-01 — 2013-06-30 (UTC) 1422 3460 3248 12
2013-05-01 — 2013-05-31 (UTC) 1256 4416 4262 12
2013-04-01 — 2013-04-30 (UTC) 1343 3656 3569 12
2013-03-01 — 2013-03-31 (UTC) 1297 3918 3741 12
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2013-01-01 — 2013-01-31 (UTC) 1228 4215 3960 12

66.140.241.100 (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Structure, trimming

Articles work best if they have "levels" in their structure. I've made a first attempt at this just now, and also done some trimming. (Much more is required though, this article is shocking). Snori (talk) 00:31, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Product and deployment sections

JMHO - Product and deployment sections provide good multi-vendor documentation and references for acceptance/usage proofs of a relatively new protocol. FL-StateU-IT-9999 (talk) 09:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I have trimmed a lot of this out. If you've just bought a bunch of netweork gear Wikipedia should not be where you go to find specific product support. Snori (talk) 00:31, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Agreed Wikipedia is not a support site, but when researching new protocols we need to understand if businesses are using or even benefiting from them or not. This information is very important for that. HP-Engineer99 (talk) 08:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Deployments

Deployment considerations and interoperability best practices are documented in an IETF document titled "SPB Deployment Considerations"[1]

  • 2013 Interop: Networking Leaders Demo Shortest Path Bridging[2]
  • 2014 Interop: InteropNet Goes IPv6, Includes Shortest Path Bridging[3]

Avaya is currently the leading exponent of SPB-based deployments; their enhanced and extended implementation of SPB - including integrated Layer 3 IP Routing and IP Multicast functionality - is marketed under the banner of the "Avaya VENA Fabric Connect" technology. Additionally, Avaya is supporting an IETF Internet Draft that defines a means of extended SPBM-based services to end-devices via conventional Ethernet Switches, leveraging an 802.1AB LLDP-based communications protocol; this capability - marketing by Avaya as "Fabric Attach" technology - allows for the automatic attachment of end-dvices, and includes dynamic configuration of VLAN/I-SID (VSN) mappings.[4][5]

Avaya have deployed SPB/Fabric Connect solutions for businesses operating across a number of industry verticals:[6]

  • Education, examples include: Leeds Metropolitan University,[7] Macquaire University,[8] Pearland Independent School District,[9] Ajman University of Science & Technology[10]
  • Transportation, examples include: Schiphol Telematics,[11] Rheinbahn,[12] Sendai City Transportation Bureau,[13] NSB[14]
  • Banking & Finance, examples include: Fiducia,[15] Sparebanken Vest[16]
  • Major Events, examples include: 2013 & 2014 Interop (InteropNet Backbone),[17] 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics,[18] Dubai World Trade Center[19][20]
  • Healthcare, examples include: Oslo University Hospital,[21][22] Concord Hospital,[23] Franciscan Alliance,[24] Sydney Adventist Hospital[25]
  • Manufacturing, examples include: Fujitsu Technology Solutions[26]
  • Media, examples include: Schibsted,[4] Medienhaus Lensing,[27] Sanlih Entertainment Television[28]
  • Government, examples include: City of Redondo Beach,[29] City of Breda,[30] Bezirksamt Neukölln[31]

References

  1. ^ Roger Lapuh; Paul Unbehagen; Peter Ashwood-Smith; Phillip Taylor (23 March 2012). "SPB Deployment Considerations". IETF. Retrieved 29 May 2012.
  2. ^ "Interop: Networking Leaders Demo Shortest Path Bridging". May 2013. Retrieved 30 May 2013.
  3. ^ Sean Michael Kerner (7 April 2014). "InteropNet Goes IPv6, Includes Shortest Path Bridging". Enterprise Networking Planet. Retrieved 18 April 2014.
  4. ^ a b "Avaya Networking Solutions Close the Gap between Data Center and End Devices". Avaya Inc. 26 March 2014.
  5. ^ "Avaya Fabric Connect extends SPB to wiring closets". 8 April 2014.
  6. ^ "Avaya – Considerations for Turning your Network into an Ethernet Fabric". Packet Pushers. 18 February 2013.
  7. ^ "Network Downtime Results in Job, Revenue Loss". Avaya Inc. 5 March 2014.
  8. ^ "Macquarie University Delivers Enhanced Student Collaboration and Services with Avaya Networking Solutions". Avaya Inc. 8 November 2012.
  9. ^ "Texas School District Embraces Avaya Networking Infrastructure to Enable 21st-Century Learning Models" (PDF). Avaya Inc. May 2014.
  10. ^ "Avaya's Fabric Connect solution helps University transition to next-generation technology-enabled learning methods". Avaya Inc. May 2013.
  11. ^ "Avaya Network Powers New Luggage Handling System at Schiphol Airport". Avaya Inc. 25 April 2012.
  12. ^ "Transport company gets data communications moving" (PDF). Avaya Inc. October 2013.
  13. ^ "Transportation Bureau Sendai City Enhancing the passenger experience" (PDF). Avaya Inc. July 2014.
  14. ^ "Rapid Transit" (PDF). Avaya Inc. June 2014.
  15. ^ "Avaya Announces Software-Defined Data Center Framework and Roadmap". Avaya Inc. 21 August 2013.
  16. ^ "Sparebanken Vest Banks on Avaya for Future-Proofed Network Infrastructure Upgrade". Avaya Inc. 8 May 2012.
  17. ^ "InteropNet 2013: Unbreakable! Avaya Fabric Connect Delivers on All Fronts". Avaya Inc. 15 May 2013.
  18. ^ "US firm Avaya named as Sochi 2014 network equipment supplier". Inside the Games. 30 November 2011.
  19. ^ "Dubai World Trade Centre to deploy conferencing solution based on Avaya's Virtual Enterprise Network Architecture". TCM. 23 October 2013.
  20. ^ "Perfectly provisioned" (PDF). Avaya Inc. July 2014.
  21. ^ "Avaya Networking Transforms Oslo University Hospital Network". Avaya Inc. 8 May 2012.
  22. ^ "Avaya Networking Transforms Oslo University Hospital Network". Firmenpresse. 8 May 2012.
  23. ^ "Concord Hospital Boosts Bandwidth and Reduces Costs with Avaya's Virtual Enterprise Network Architecture Solutions". Avaya Inc. 8 May 2012.
  24. ^ "Franciscan Alliance & Fabric Connect: Redefining the Delivery of Healthcare Services" (PDF). Avaya Inc. May 2013.
  25. ^ "Strong, Stable Network Underpins Sydney Adventist Hospital" (PDF). Avaya Inc. May 2012.
  26. ^ "Avaya Extends the Automated Campus to End the Network Waiting Game". Avaya Inc. 1 April 2014.
  27. ^ "Good news for data communication". Avaya 2014. May 2014.
  28. ^ "Enabling Sanlih Entertainment Television New Digital Broadcasting System" (PDF). Avaya Inc. Jun 2012.
  29. ^ "Coastal Californian Community Deploys Avaya Network to Enable Mission-Critical Applications" (PDF). Avaya Inc. June 2014.
  30. ^ "Breda City Council looks forward to a more agile future with Avaya VENA Fabric Connect". Avaya Inc. December 2013.
  31. ^ "On their own initiative forward-looking". Avaya Inc. February 2014.

Product Support

  • Huawei S9300 (prototype only at the moment)
  • IP Infusion's ZebOS network platform[20]

References

  1. ^ "Alcatel-Lucent OmniSwitch 6900 Data Sheet" (PDF). Retrieved 7 January 2013.
  2. ^ "Alcatel-Lucent OmniSwitch 10K Data Sheet" (PDF). Retrieved 7 January 2013.
  3. ^ "Avaya rolls out networking blueprint for data centre". 11 November 2010. Retrieved 20 July 2011.
  4. ^ "Avaya Virtual Service Platform 7000 Switch Delivers Real Performance". Retrieved 20 July 2011. The VSP is a 10 GbE top-of-rack switch that supports Shortest Path Bridging (SPB), Edge Virtual Bridging (EVB), and Fiber Channel over Ethernet (FCoE) networking standards.
  5. ^ "Avaya aims to boost IP multicast methods with new network fabric". Retrieved 13 April 2013.
  6. ^ "Avaya Announces New Innovations in Fabric-Enabled Networking". Retrieved 17 April 2013.
  7. ^ "Avaya unveils new offerings for fabric-enabled networking". Retrieved 17 April 2013.
  8. ^ "Avaya's new network fabric supports tens of thousands of video streams for IP multicasting". Retrieved 18 April 2013.
  9. ^ "Virtual Services Platform 4000". Avaya. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |url= (help)
  10. ^ "Configuration — Shortest Path Bridging MAC-in-MAC (SPBM)". Retrieved 20 July 2011.
  11. ^ "Avaya Networking Solutions Close the Gap between Data Centre and End Devices". SDN Zone. Retrieved 26 March 2014.
  12. ^ Enterasys enhances data center offerings
  13. ^ Shamus McGillicuddy (9 May 2012). "Shortest Path Bridging: The interoperable alternate to spanning tree". Alcatel-Lucent and Huawei also support SPB and Enterasys Networks has SPB in its roadmap. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |url= (help)
  14. ^ unknown (9 May 2012). "Shortest Not all Unified Network Architectures are really so simple". Retrieved 5 May 2013. Shortest Path Bridging IEEE 802.1aq
  15. ^ "Alcatel-Lucent, Avaya, Huawei, Solana and Spirent Showcase Shortest Path Bridging Interoperability". IT News Link. Retrieved 13 May 2012.
  16. ^ "SPIRENT TESTCENTER SHORTEST PATH BRIDGING TEST PACKAGE". Spirent N. Retrieved 13 May 2012.
  17. ^ HP FlexFabric 11900 Switch Series
  18. ^ "HP Discover 2012". HP. Retrieved 15 June 2012.
  19. ^ Cite error: The named reference Avaya path was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  20. ^ Shortest Path Bridging (SPB)
  21. ^ "IX Network Specifications". IXIA. Retrieved 25 July 2013.
  22. ^ "QT-600 Ethernet Probe". JDSU. Retrieved 26 Aug 2013.

Too technical

I found the article interesting, but the very dense use of acronyms and an implied assumption of á priori knowledge made it difficult to read. I'm a CS mayor, and maybe that's why I read the whole thing, but networking is not my strong suite. This article made that very clear, and I wonder how someone from another field would react.

The style feels like it copied from somewhere else, especially the section about deployments which seams, at least to my eye, like an advertisement. With that being said, I again would like state that I really found it quite enlightening and thank whoever wrote this.

Max Nordlund (talk) 22:02, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree - having spent some time in 802.1 committees, I know acronyms become really ingrained, but they really should at least be defined when first used. e.g. "Both SPBV and SPBM inherit key benefits of link state routing" is the first mention of either. Making a quick edit to this line. Ma-Ma-Max Headroom (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Is the "S" included by mistake ?

Fixed at some point

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

Shortest Path Bridging Media Access Control (MAC) or (SPBM), (previously known as Provider Backbone Bridge SPBB) provides additional values which capitalize on Provider Backbone Bridge (PBB) capabilities.

Should the "S" be in front of "SPBB" if PBB means Provider Backbone Bridge ? 

--161.185.160.89 (talk) 02:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC) Gregory Raymond T.I.A.
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