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Coherence concerning the sub-sized models[edit]

In the "Design and development" section it is reported that the engineers say they used sub-sized models for testing and demonstration. Then, in "Doubts of viability of aircraft" section it is argued multiple times with different formulations that the radio-controlled model aircraft cannot be a real plane, because it is just a model. This is pointless. The "Doubts of viability of aircraft" section is in need of revision. 2A04:4540:470E:9800:98B8:6961:C1F9:F38C (talk) 10:35, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but it needs nothing more severe than a simple rearrangement. We can split the last 2 paragraphs of "Design and development" off and move them to after the "Doubts of viability of aircraft" section.

The problem results from the time gap between the 2013 models and the 2017 mock-up resulting in a non-chronological flow of text, and this is easiest solved by splitting the post-2016 developments into a new section and moving this to the end. Ultimately, whatever news of the project will occur in the future, they will pertain to the 2017 mock-up and its further developments, not to the 2013 models. The 2013 events are basically a closed chapter now, and the texshould be reformatted chronologically to reflect this. 213.182.115.191 (talk) 14:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Developed from MiG-17?[edit]

https://medium.com/editors-picks/337fd4ac7a98 “When I was examining the photos of the prototype/mock-up I guessed that they actually cut up an old MiG-17’s wings for it—the wings have a very distinctive plan shape,” Wong added.

Notable enough? Hcobb (talk) 20:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The quote is from someone designing a model for it, not really an expert opinion. - Ahunt (talk) 21:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The size and basic shape are more reminiscent of the Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet - which indeed WAS a perfectly well designed fighter with a proven war record, albeit from the time before missiles were standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.135.194.50 (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resemblance to Chinese Shenyang FC-31[edit]

I find it interesting how all these "experts" can't seem to find the massive link this plane has to the Shenyang FC-31. The bodies of the plane are literally identical. First of all, how can you talk about and even judge something that you have only seen a photo of? How can you investigate to prove it, it's not possible. Most of the quotes provided by these "commentators" are from anti-Iranian sources, mainly Israeli and anti-Iranian media such as BBC Persian. I'm not for or against this plane, I just find it silly how you can talk about something to the extent where one pretends they plane is their own personal property and they know it back to front. This issue should be talked about, the criticism section of the article doesn't state that there have been no foreigners which have even seen the thing with their own eyes, let alone investigate it. How can they be so certain of the materials of this aircraft? It's nothing but speculation and this should be said. Also, I wanted to include the stark resemblance this plane prototype has with the Shenyang FC-31, please see it if you haven't and we'll discuss it. Migboy123 (talk) 04:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What refs do you have for that? - Ahunt (talk) 12:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Poor quality image[edit]

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An editor has been edit-warring (and has been warned as such) to include the image at right in the article. I contend that this image is of such poor quality that it is much worse than no image at all. I propose it be removed. - Ahunt (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support - ZLEA _T\^C 13:14, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since the user who added this how now been indef blocked and thus won't be participating in this discussion, I think we can close this as a consensus to remove it. - Ahunt (talk) 20:30, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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