Talk:Helena Snakenborg, Marchioness of Northampton

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This article needs trimming[edit]

The article as it stands is full of unsourced material and superfluous information. It reads like an essay or an extract from a romantic novel. I cleaned it up a bit and added section headings but it is still a bit unwieldy for an encyclopedia article.jeanne (talk) 12:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the language is occasionally sloppy .. but I'm not motivated. —Tamfang (talk) 18:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Issues?[edit]

This article seems to be copied from this link Bio of Helena Snakenborg at Tudor Place -- is this allowed? -- Lady Meg (talk) 21:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see nothing has been done, since my comment here in 2011, to actually confirm the bio which is copied from an amateur genealogist with no sources. Lady Meg (talk) 07:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Name of page[edit]

She was not Marchioness of Northampton by her own right so I'm wondering why her page title is Helena, Marchioness of Northampton. If anything shouldn't it be Helena Parr, Marchioness of Northampton or Helena Gorges? -- Lady Meg (talk) 21:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be what she was most commonly known as in England during her lifetime... AnonMoos (talk) 18:12, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

She was known as Marchioness throughout her life, even when she remarried. She would retain the highest status. It’s like Jacquetta of Luxembourg who maintained her status as “Duchess of Befdord”. However, her title for her Wiki page is just “Jacquetta of Luxembourg” isn’t it? So even though Helena remarried she retained the title of “Marchioness” and was the top peeress during Elizabeth’s reign. So I suppose the surname should be dropped and it should be “Helena, Marchioness of Northampton”. Lady Meg (talk) 07:20, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fiction[edit]

Helena Snakenborg is the main character in the novel Roses Have Thorns: A Novel of Elizabeth I (Ladies in Waiting) by Sandra Byrd (2013). I thought it was always notable for a historical figure to be the subject of a fictinal book, particularly as this is the only novel that has been written about her. --92.35.232.230 (talk) 19:54, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]