Talk:Habib Elghanian

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Iranian Jewish Population[edit]

The paragraph discussing Iran's Jewish population contradicts both itself and reality. Iran cannot have both 25,000–30,000 Jews and also fewer than 9,000. Iran also has only the 29th largest Jewish population of any country, not the 3rd, a ridiculous claim. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country). I'm not familiar with the protocol of editing pages on Wikipedia but hopefully someone more familiar can remedy this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.85.195 (talk) 04:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

If this is already mentioned on the Persian Jews page, what is the purpose of this article? Is any more going to be added to it? Is there any more to add to it? Otherwise, I'd suggest a redirect back to Persian Jews. Leuko 21:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there were a few links to this page on persian jews, so i decided to create a stub. i think its better to leave it, as stubs helps create articles. but you decide, i dont care.--Gerash77 22:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's with that picture?[edit]

Looks like somebody tried to use a magic marker to put a yarmulka on it! And very poorly. 76.180.168.166 (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Symantec and Stuxnet[edit]

In Symanec's report (page 18), there's not even a simple claim by Symanec experts that Elghanian's execution date and the virus might be connected. It is stated, referring to Wikipedia, that 9 May 1979 was the day an Iranian Jewish civilian called Habib Elghanian was executed. However, a disclaimer is written right after statement that reads "Symantec cautions readers on drawing any attribution conclusions," drawing the corporation away from even the slightest speculation. -- Nojan (talk) 03:33, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Neo-lachrymose myths[edit]

Recently, there has been a significat effort to promote well known Israeli neo-lachrymose myths (self-victimization), claiming that "roughly 75% of Iranian Jews chose to leave Iran during or immediately after the revolution", as a result of Elghanian's trial. Chronological overview:

  1. It has been inserted by IP 207.112.29.100 [1]
  2. Restored by User:DeltaBladeX [2] (edit summary: rv non-policy based removal of sourced content)
  3. Restored again by User:Plot Spoiler [3] (edit summary: WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not an acceptable rationale to delete sourced, objectively presented info)
  4. Restored three more times by User:Haybs in edit war [4][5][6] (edit summaries: obviously related, next time try to explain your revert or will be considered vandalism and rv unexplained removal of sourced content)

Rationale:

  • Two times I reverted content with reasonable explanation: sources don't even mention Elghanian [7], again, not mentioned in source, WP:OR [8]
  • User:Haybs is thus evidently a liar because he claims next time try to explain your revert and rv unexplained removal of sourced content.
  • Both User:DeltaBladeX and User:Haybs have less then ten edits in total, primary about Elghanian and other Israel-related topics, most probably both are socks.
  • Beside inserted sources dont mention Elghanian (claimed as sourced content by all three registered users above), they are not even reliable for historical topics because Robert Tait is only Israel-based journalist, writing for right-wing British media.
  • Regarding historical accuracy, this may be helpful: Since the early 1960s until the establishment of the Islamic Republic in Iran in February 1979, there was an average annual immigration of some 1,000 to 1,500 souls from Persia. The average did not increase in the wake of the Islamic Revolution, which was followed by a major wave of Jewish immigration from Persia to various destinations, chief among them the United States and Europe. The number of immigrants who reportedly arrived from Persia to Israel in the course of the first decade of the Islamic Republic (1979-89) amounted to 8,487 souls, or roughly about 850 people per year, which declined progressively in the course of the 1990s-2004 (e.g., 323 in 1999, 420 in 2000, and 133 in 2003; see Central Bureau of Statistics, Statistical Abstract of Israel, no. 46, 1995, p. 180; no. 47, 1996, p. 150; no. 48, 1997, p. 158; ibid., no. 51, 2000, sec. 5.3; no. 52, 2002, sec. 5.3; no. 55, 2004, sec. 5.3; in Yeroushalmi, EIr, 2007, Vol. XIV, Fasc. 2, pp. 223-224 and Vol. XIV, Fasc. 3, pp. 225-234). Author is an Israeli Jewish scholar, and he refers to Israel Central Bureau of Statistics.

In short, inserted claims are false. Some editor(s?) above may WP:LIKEIT, but Wikipedia is not a place for national myths and historical revisionism. --MehrdadFR (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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