Talk:HMS Porcupine (G93)

A fact from HMS Porcupine (G93) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after HMS Porcupine was nearly split in two by a torpedo, the halves were nicknamed HMS Pork and HMS Pine?

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Inference at Odds[edit]

The inference of the last sentence of this paragraph appears to contradict information presented elsewhere in the article, including immediately preceding. It is stated that the two halves of the former Porcupine were recommissioned as shore-based accommodations hulks ('Pork') and ('Pine'), confirmed by seemingly reliable citation. Additionally, it is reported at this same source (employed six times in the article) [1] that these two derivative craft were both scrapped at Plymouth on 6 May, 1946. Thus any uncited statement inferring that an apparently recombined Porcupine served post-Pork and Pine era as a "tender to HMS Victory III" appears at odds with the established narrative. It should either be clarified and cited or removed. Wikiuser100 (talk) 14:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that it's at odds with the narrative - I think there's been a slight misunderstanding. Porcupine was unseaworthy - as she was in two halves - and was eventually recommissioned as a tender to HMS Victory III (Victory III was, I believe, an accounting base at Wantage). Tenders do not need to be seaworthy - essentially, the two halves were simply used as extra office space, and both halves were still known as HMS Porcupine on all official lists, despite them being in two halves. (86.176.160.10) 02:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Having only just read the article (I know, I'm a bit slow), I said to myself: "I wonder if there's anything on the talk page" as like Wikiuser100 above, I got the same impression about the two halves of the ship and only fully understood what was meant after reading 86.176.160.10's comments. Perhaps some of what he/she pointed out should be incorporated into the article - then everyone's happy. RASAM (talk) 18:53, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sea voyage 1943??[edit]

How on earth was a badly damaged craft like this brought back to the UK during WWII? The ship would have been towed through the axis-controlled Med and up the Atlantic west and north coasts of occupied France. In simple parlance a sitting duck for U-boats or long-range anti-shipping aircraft. The story on how it got back safely, IMO, is more interesting than it ending up in two parts!!

There's a few more pictures of how they did it at http://www.hmscavalier.org.uk/G93/ - however, I think that's all the photos that exist, I'm afraid! The Cavalry (Message me) 03:12, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]