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EnvDecisonMaking (talk) 12:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)The Masters team from Macquarie University below has also added an external link to the Petra Kelly Wikipage after reading that her time and influence of exposure to the Sydney Green Ban movement has not been attributed on her page. We are now looking to research if she had direct contact with any Australian union leaders during her visit to Australia before she returned to Germany to establish the German Green Party.EnvDecisonMaking (talk) 12:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But what is it?[edit]

As mentioned before this article is lacking some examples of Green Bans in Australia and information as to what happened after the Green Bans took place and where in Australia or internationally did they have an effect in terms of other environmental decison making processes. I am a part of a group of 4 from a Masters program at Macquarie University in Sydney who would like to update this page in accordance with the wikipedia guidelines. We wish to update the page by adding details such as more examples of local Green bans and the benifits the Green Ban had in Sydney. We will include a timeline of how the Green Bans took place and incude some national examples. We will also include some information regarding how the Green ban affected international politics, Petra Kelly was in Sydney at the time of the Green Bans and took the idea back to Germany which is when she created the German Greens Party. Also we will have some information as to the Impact of Green Ban's and the outcomes it has had for changes to urban planning decisions in NSW. We will add to the page some high quality peer reviewed articles as well as some other high quailty sources. EnvDecisonMaking (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article talks about Green Bans, but does not describe what they are, or elaborate on examples of how such bans take place. After reading this article, I have no better idea of what a Green Ban is than before. --RealGrouchy (talk) 23:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The NSW Banch of the FEDFA (not the NSW BLF)implemented the first Green Ban on 17 June 1971 when bulldozer members of the FEDFA refused to clear a section of virgin foreshore land at Kelly's Bush in the Harbour side city of Hunters Hill on a proposed development site for A.V.Jennings. This followed an approach to the then NSW FEDFA State Secretary Jack Cambourn by local residents who had been told that the union for bulldozer drivers was the FEDFA. It was due to Jack Cambourn's subequent efforts that on June 3 1971 that the NSW Trades and Labour Council decided to support the resident's group. Soon after NSW trades and Council endorsement of work bans, Jack Cambourn was warned that a plant operator was ready to start work at Kelly's Bush. The FEDFA bulldozer driver readilly accepted Cambourn's explanation and removed his machine from the site. It was following these actions that the FEDFA asked the NSW BLF to place bans on construction work at Kelly's Bush. Despite the use of police and Askin Government pressure, A.V.Jennings capitulated and discontinued work on the site at Kelly's Bush.(Kelly's Bush was the first of a number of other Green Bans in which the FEDFA was to participant along with the NSW BLF. Most historical accounts of the Green Bans campaigns in NSW fail to give credit to the indispensible role played by the NSW FEDFA in the bans and the support given to the NSW BLF.(A wall in Wooloomooloo has a mural which depicts FEDFA officials Jack Cambourn and Vic Fitzgerald and other activists in the NSW Green Bans including the crane firm Men From Mars)

Meridith and Verity Burgman partially recognised the role of the NSW FEDFA at Kelly's Bush when they wrote in their book Green Bans Red Union "FEDFA's support for the Battlers (resident's group}though overshadowed by the publicity accorded the BLF's role was crucial, as its members were involved in bulldozing, grading and land clearing work". (Ref) FEDFA a Victorian Branch history by Malcolm McDonald p 95-98. Printed by BPA Print Group,Burwood Victoria September 2005) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.157.3 (talk) 12:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly's Bush radioactive waste[edit]

In the "Background" section, there was previously a sentence which read: "The first green ban was put in place to protect Kelly's Bush, the last remaining undeveloped (but radioactive) bushland in the Sydney suburb of Hunters Hill." The "(but radioactive)" text was added in this edit, and I thought it might be vandalism, but I did find this mention of radioactive waste on a blog: "Doubts about prospective home sites were raised in 1978 when low-risk radioactive waste material from the old tin smelting furnace was found on the land."

From the sound of it, the radioactivity wasn't a substantial environmental concern, but it raised concerns about the marketability of the planned development. "Undeveloped (but radioactive) bushland" doesn't really convey that—it conveys a park that glows in the dark. So, I took the step of removing "(but radioactive)" from the aforementioned sentence. Everything I know about this topic I learned from Wikipedia, so perhaps someone more knowledgeable/Australian could evaluate how relevant the radioactive waste was to the success of the green ban, and add a nicely sourced sentence if it's warranted. --Fullobeans (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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