Talk:Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.

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Former good articleGomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 27, 2009Good article nomineeListed
February 3, 2009Peer reviewReviewed
February 28, 2009Featured article candidateNot promoted
January 27, 2009Good article nomineeListed
September 20, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Reference[edit]

I believe this name was used in Full Metal Jacket in the intro. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:10, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gomer Pyle[edit]

I changed the redirect for Gomer Pyle to its own page with a brief character description.Wavy G 02:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name of article is incorrect[edit]

It is Gomer Pyle-USMC not Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.. Here is a screen capture of the opening from the series providing proof. The name of this article should be changed. Dog Face Charlie 05:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find myself agreeing with this. Even the article agrees with this, by having a footnote on the lead sentence admitting the point. So if it's good enough for CBS and the title credits, why isn't it good enough for us? I think we need some rationale for this spelling, or it needs to be changed to what the title creds are. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 04:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


WHY ISN'T IT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US... Because the US Military doesn't use periods in it's acronyms...see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps

USN (United States Navy), USAF (United States Air Force), DOD (Department of Defense), DOA (Department of the Army), MCAS (Marine Corps Air Station), OLF (Outlying Landing Field, SMMC (Sargent Major of the Marine Corps)....the list goes on. It's USMC, not U.S.M.C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.7.247 (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series[edit]

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 16:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overhaul[edit]

The article was looking kind of...start-class-ish, so I overhauled it. :P More to come. Ink Runner (talk) 23:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I am not sure how this show can be called a victim of the "Rural Purge" at CBS since that purge took place after the show left the air. Its successor show :The Jim Nabors hour" is sometimes called a victim of that purge. BTW I am not even sure that this show was canceled in the traditional sense. Since Nabors went straight to a one hour variety format I always thought he chose that transition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 (talk) 18:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's up at GAN. Ink Runner (talk) 06:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Passed. A well-written article! ItsLassieTime (talk) 14:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with the argument that 'Gomer Pyle - USMC' is almost certainly NOT part of CBS's famed rural purge. The show was number two in the ratings during the 1968-1969 season. It was CBS's highest-rated show, for heaven's sake! CBS was not going to cancel it, whether it was rural or not. I've never read anything about CBS cancelling it. Jim Nabors ended it, because he wanted to do a variety show, which he did. That show was cancelled in 1971, along with the other CBS rural shows. But this article does NOT make a convincing case that 'GP' was cancelled in 1969 as part of a rural purge. Why would CBS have cancelled it, but kept 'Petticoat Junction,' which wasn't even in the top 30(!) during the '68-'69 season? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.143.202.206 (talk) 00:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Single/Multi camera[edit]

Is this a single camera or multi camera show? The Production section states that it was single camera, but the sidebar says multi. 76.126.142.59 (talk) 19:46, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CBS Did not cancel Gomer Pyle[edit]

Nabors decided he wanted to move on.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CwQVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qwEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2443,3314149&dq=gomer+pyle&hl=en

I edited the article accordingly. - William 17:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings[edit]

Removed the ratings section as it has been tagged with {{refimprove section}} since November 2011. As it is a Good article I moved the information here so it can be reincorporated with references in the future. AIRcorn (talk) 00:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Like its parent series, Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. ranked in the Top 10 its entire run.

NOTE: The highest average rating for the series is in bold text.

Season Rank Rating
1) 1964–1965 3 30.7
2) 1965–1966 2 27.8
3) 1966–1967 10 22.8 (Tied with The Ed Sullivan Show, The Lawrence Welk Show and The Virginian)
4) 1967–1968 3 25.6
5) 1968–1969 2 27.2

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 22:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

– Correct name of the show is Gomer Pyle-USMC (Per show's open title) the current title is incorrect because the program never used a , nor was USMC stylized as U.S.M.C. therefore it should be moved to the aforementioned new title. --Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:38, 11 April 2014 (UTC) --TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 02:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. You should not go by the opening title sequence alone because it, in itself, could also be just a stylized, logo version of the title. Thus it is an insufficient rationale in terms of WP:COMMONAME. How is it rendered in various text articles from most independent reliable sources? Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The opening title is the logo, there is no other differently stylized logo per say, advertisements that appeared in newspapers, TV Guide etc... at the time the show was in its original network run and in first-run syndication all have the name stylized like this. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 23:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    What about now? How is it commonly rendered now, in 2014, not back then? How it was rendered during its original network run and first-run syndication could be irrelevant. Per WP:COMMONAME: "If the name of a person, group, object, or other article topic changes, then more weight should be given to the name used in reliable sources published after the name change than in those before the change". I currently get conflicting results. For example, this page on Walmart.com seems to show a DVD cover with the logo now rendered as "U.S.M.C.", and also uses "Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C." in the text. Same story as Amazon's page. This bio of Nabors on TVLand.com uses "U.S.M.C." but this Hollywood Reporter article does not. The logo, whether stylized or not, is an official name, not a common name, and it is not at all helpful when the current DVD's being sold are using "U.S.M.C." now. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: If this discussion is going to end as anything other than no consensus, somebody needs to start producing some evidence of the WP:COMMONNAME of the show. Arguments based on editors' interpretations of the logo at the start of the show are original research into the WP:OFFICIAL title. Neither aspect of that satisfies Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:38, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – pretty much all reliable sources do it more like the current title. The use of hyphen as dash may have been OK on a space-constrained low-def TV screen, but has no place in real typography. Dicklyon (talk) 00:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article is a bit redundant...[edit]

Okay, we get it! The show was made in the 1960's and had a military theme, but avoided talking about social issues of the day, particularly the Vietnam War. Is it really necessary to mention that THREE TIMES in the article???184.5.156.199 (talk) 19:53, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pink Floyd connection[edit]

I feel the article should mention somewhere that dialog from episode #97 can be heard throughout Pink Floyd's track Nobody Home, off the album The Wall. GroovingPict (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Passed GA review ItsLassieTime (talk) 14:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 14:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 16:29, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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GA Reassessment[edit]

Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.[edit]

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Result: Delisted. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:12, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA from 2009. There are multiple statements and/or paragraphs that lack sources, and there is no Reception section. Many sources used are unreliable (IMDB, YouTube) or self-published. Needs a lot of work to maintain GA status. Spinixster (chat!) 08:12, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have confirmed the issues listed in the nomination remain present. As it has been a month since listing with no improvements, I will be delisting. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:12, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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