Talk:Ghib Ojisan

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Schwede66 (talk) 07:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that YouTuber Ghib Ojisan visited Yishun, a Singaporean town, expecting danger after reading of cats being slaughtered but instead found it "home to nice people and cute cats"?
    Sources:
    1. Awang, Nabilah (2019-12-21). "S'pore-based Japanese vlogger scores surprise hits with videos on Yishun, HDB flats". Today. Archived from the original on 2021-06-29. Retrieved 2021-06-29.

      The article notes: "He also recalled reading an article that listed all the happenings in Yishun — murders, cat killings and policemen attacked with a stun gun — and thought it was, perhaps, the most dangerous place in Singapore." The article later notes, "He also described Yishun as a cosy town that is home to “nice people and cute cats”."

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 07:02, 29 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and was nominated within 7 days of creation. There are more than 1500 characters in prose. Each sentence is reliably sourced with inline citations. I did not find copyright violations in the sources. QPQ is fulfilled and no image was suggested, so image guidelines do not apply. "Stun gun" needs a disambiguation, and some sources are the subject's Twitter itself, so it should be replaced with a secondary source or removed until a better source can be found. "Ojisan" is not a last name so it should not be treated as such. I don't find the current hook interesting; is it possible to reword this or suggest a new one? lullabying (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the review. "Stun gun" has been disambiguated. The use of the subject's Twitter account as a source meets the requirements of WP:BLPSELFPUB. "Ghib Ojisan" is the subject's YouTube channel. "Ojisan" is how several reliable sources refer to him:
    1. Geddie, John (2020-10-29). Nicolaci da Costa, Ana (ed.). "In safe Singapore's 'cursed' town, ghosts and odd happenings". Reuters. Archived from the original on 2021-06-29. Retrieved 2021-06-29.

      The article notes: "Others who have investigated Yishun's 'weird and sometimes dangerous' reputation, like Japanese YouTuber Ghib Ojisan have come to less exciting conclusions. 'I discovered that it is just a nice neighbourhood,' said Ojisan, who started making videos about Yishun last year."

    2. Sholihyn, Ilyas (2020-06-12). "Japanese YouTuber tries getting a 'Singapore-style' haircut, says he now looks like an onigiri". AsiaOne. Archived from the original on 2021-06-29. Retrieved 2021-06-29.

      The article notes: "It’s a minor mystery that Singapore-based Japanese vlogger Ghib Ojisan recently tried to find out for himself while wandering the empty walkways of People's Park Centre to look for a barbershop. ... It’s an odd and unknown request for the hairdresser, but Ojisan was insistent about his preferred cut, even as the situation grew real awkward."

    Other sources refer to him as "Ken" (The Nikkei) or "Ghib" or "Ghibli" (Today). With the inconsistency in the sources and in the absence of knowing what his actual last name is, I went with calling him Ojisan.

    Cunard (talk) 05:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for addressing the errors and I like ALT1 a lot more. Good to go. lullabying (talk) 04:34, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

reopening for now, since the article is at AFD. See WT:DYK.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article is still long enough, new enough and no apparent copyvio. Sourcing is solid and both hooks are good. Any issues from the original review have been resolved and the page is no longer at AfD. I am approving both ALT0 and ALT1 after adding a source to ALT1. That said, I still have a preference for the original alt. BuySomeApples (talk) 22:05, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
to Template:Did_you_know/Queue/1 Schwede66 07:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

HiloIOK edits on 18 July 2021[edit]

I am reverting this 18 July 2021 edit from HiloIOK (which was reinstated by Ekuftle here) per the policy WP:BLPSOURCES, which says:

Wikipedia's sourcing policy, Verifiability, says that all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation; material not meeting this standard may be removed. This policy extends that principle, adding that contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion. This applies whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable and whether it is in a biography or in some other article.

The edits introduce incorrect information and information not supported by reliable sources:

  1. "Singaporean (PR)" – no source says Ghib Ojisan is a permanent resident in Singapore. According to the video description of this 10 July 2021 video from the Ghib Ojisan YouTube channel, "After living in Singapore for 2.5 years, I finally decided to apply for PR. What are the cons and pros of becoming a permanent resident?" Adding that the subject is a a permanent resident of Singapore is false information in violation of BLP.
  2. The edits changed His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience. to His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience who were enthusiasts about Singapore. No reliable sources say that his YouTube subscribers before he received a large amount of attention had previously been "enthusiasts about Singapore". Instead, this article from Kyodo News's NNA Japan supports the previous text; it says, "It became a hot topic on the net news, and the number of viewers in Singapore, Malaysia, and the United States increased at a stretch. Currently, the number of subscribers is over 150,000. As the number of overseas viewers increased, the percentage of Japanese people fell to about 30%." It is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to make this change.
  3. The sentence Despite Singapore's high cost of living, he remained in the country for two months to see her. was changed to Despite his tight budget and Singapore being a relatively affluent place for a backpacking style of travel, he remained in the country for two months to be with her. The sentence is sourced to this article, which says: "And turns out, Ghib Ojisan met his wife, a Singaporean girl, back then when he was doing a travel vlog here. He then went on to stay here for two months, even though backpacking in Singapore was pretty expensive." Even though the article says he was backpacking, the article does not say that he had "tight budget", so it violates Wikipedia:No original research to add that.
  4. The sentence The couple chose to remain in Singapore. was changed to When deciding between either living in Japan or Singapore, the couple chose to remain in Singapore after weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries. The sentence is sourced to this article, which does not say that they were deciding between Japan and Singapore. The article does not say they were "weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries" so it is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to add this.

Cunard (talk) 19:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

"Ojisan" is Japanese for "uncle", and "Ghib Ojisan" (Uncle Ghib) is clearly a pen name. If their real name is unknown, the article should refer to them as "Ghib". Jpatokal (talk) 09:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced "Ojisan" with the subject's full pen name "Ghib Ojisan" since the subject's surname is unknown. There is related discussion about this at Template:Did you know nominations/Ghib Ojisan. Cunard (talk) 10:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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