Talk:Ganj-i-Sawai

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Value of the prize?[edit]

I guess I'm not the only one struggling to understand what 600 000 pounds of 1695 would be worth... 81.67.30.80 (talk) 19:25, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Appalling treatment of those on board the Ganj-i-Sawai[edit]

Women were on board this ship when it was attacked by English Pirates. Such was the shocking abuse that these women were subject to, that once left alone they either threw themselves overboard, or took their lives by means of knife or dagger in order to spare their honour. Source Indian historian Khafi Khan 92.18.120.188 (talk) 20:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Design of the Ganj I Sawai.[edit]

The assertion here is that the Ganj I Sawai was a large dhow, and that the images included of her as a western style of vessel are wrong. I do not think this is necessarily logical or correct. Firstly, her size at an estimated 1500 to 1600 tons, and carrying 60-80 guns is far beyond that of even the largest recorded dhows of the period. The assertion that the ship was smaller than the Fancy is also very incorrect. There is a painting in the Rijksmuseum in Holland that shows shipping at Surat dated to 1672, and many of the medium size ships are clearly European and do fly Dutch colours. The larger vessels are also European in general style of rig, but have a number of unique features (stern decoration, beakhead design, a fixed quarterdeck canopy) that mark them as different - a hybrid in fact of Indian shipbuilding and western design. The largest of these vessels is impressive - and may even be the Ganj I Sawai (although that is pure conjecture). Indian shipbuilding was in fact highly developed in this period, and had a long tradition of adopting and adapting designs and features from all around the world. Indian built ships of an essentially western design, with specific local features and decoration is far from unrealistic, and I would imagine is far more likely as a design style for the Ocean going Mughal Pilgrim fleet than trying to make a dhow of that size or armament. 2A00:23C6:A88B:2D01:C98A:FE0E:D990:507D (talk) 09:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for the Ganj I Sawai.[edit]

So the claim that the Ganj looked like a large dhow ship, does anyone have any links for that? As well for the number of cannons, I seen people asserting it has either 40, 62 or 80 cannon, so what are the sources exactly for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:585A:4200:C199:B6F4:9D7C:EB68 (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]