Talk:Frank Finn

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Factual inaccuracies[edit]

Ploceus megarhynchus cannot be named after Frank Finn, because Frank Finn was 1 year old in the year of the description of this bird (1869). --Melly42 17:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Research by User:Smallweed on the topic. Shyamal 14:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To quote Beolens and Watkins: Hume first described the weaver from a specimen collected by [Frank] Finn at Kaladoongi in India, and [Eugene William] Oates gave it its vernacular name in 1889 or 1890." Obviously the first part of this sentence is incorrect, but the second half seems reasonable, and I think Frank Finn is the right man, as he was in India at that time. I have no idea if Hume gave the bird a common name in 1866 or just the scientific name, and no idea who did collect the bird in Kaladoongi. Smallweed 13:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

See NHM Type database

Genus:  	Ploceus
Species: 	megarhynchus
Subspecies: 	
Author: 	Hume
Year: 	1869
Family or Sub-family: 	Ploceidae
Reference: 	Ibis, (2) 5 : 356.
Type: 	Syntype
Description: 	Adult female.
Registration No.: 	1887.1.1.1660.
Location: 	Kaladoongi, (below Nynee Tal, vide Hume, Stray Feathers, 6 (1878) : 400), India, Dec. 1866.
Collector: 	Collected by A. O. Hume. Hume Collection.
Notes: 	The other syntype is in the collection.

I think it was rediscovered by Finn and hence the common name. Shyamal 14:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is another reference which may explain this (unfortunately have no access)

Finn, F. (1899) On a new species of weaver bird. Proceedings of the Asiatic Society of Bengal. 13(2):377-378. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyamal (talk • contribs) 14:08, August 27, 2007 (UTC)