Talk:Ford Zephyr

Image request removed. The article already has 4 pictures. Malcolma 12:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Some of the Mark II and Mark III cars shown have Rostyle wheels, which I believe were not a stock option and would have been added by the cars' owners. I think Wikipedia should always show the standard factory cars rather than customised ones where possible.

- Meltingpot

Meltingpot 18:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Executive

My recollection as a car-mad small Mr Larrington was that the Executive could be distinguished from the standard Zodiac by the vinyl roof and the "gunsight" on the bonnet, in which case the white car pictured looks awfully like an Executive estate... 195.69.214.5 (talk) 11:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

My recollection is that different rules applied to the estates (which were converted by someone else - called Abbott, I think, but presumably unrelated to the ale). My recollection is, however, unreliable. My other recollection is that the things corroded horribly, so for one to be around 40 years later, it is likely to have been extensively "reworked" over the years. Also, one of the footnotes in the wiki entry says "there was no executive estate". That was note number 14 when last I looked. It is sourced to an old copy of Autocar. I have to admit that it is entered by .. um .. me, so this hardly constitutes totally independent corroboration. The other thing is that the photographer should have taken the trouble to look at the car's backside to see what was written on it (as in "Executive" or "Zodiac") in order to be able correctly to name the picture later in the day. I can't remember if the photographer was sufficiently awake to do that, but he is old and forgetful enough, at least, to know that he should have done. So .... you may be right. I certainly cannot swear that you're wrong. But ... I still think I'm right and that it's a Zodiac. Regards Charles01 (talk) 13:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC) (The photographer in question)

Ford of Britain or Ford UK

Someone has switched "Ford of Britain" to "Ford UK", citing a consensus. I think you may be over interpreting the consensus to which you refer, but that is maybe a more general discussion for another place.

"Ford UK" is a recent term. People did not use the term when the Ford Zephyr was made. They referred to "Ford of Britain". Henry Ford was a mid-westerner who tended to pacifism in the First World War and US isolationism in anticipation the Second World War. Nothing wrong with that from a mid Western perspective, you may think. Nevertheless, while people were busy assembling Churchill Tanks at the Vauxhall plant in Luton, the Ford plant at Dagenham's contribution to the British war effort was more low profile, although they certainly were producing stuff for the national war effort (along with a great many tractors to support the agriculture sector). But to sell cars in Britain at a time when British patriotism was widely supported (not UKish patriotism) Ford's smart sales and marketing departments always bent over backwards to support Britishness. A few weeks before the Second World War broke out they renamed their small car "Ford Anglia". And through the lifetime of the Ford Zephyr they called themselves "Ford of Britain". (I guess they would have turned up in the register at Companies House as "Ford Motor Company Ltd.".) They did not call themselves "Ford UK".

There may be good wiki-reasons to rename a car or a company retrospectively. But in this instance you have not bothered to tell us what you think these they are. What you are presenting us with is an anachronism - a name out of keeping with the time to which you apply it. In the absence of good reasons to the contrary, I think we need to stick with "Ford of Britain" in this case.

Any thoughts?

Regards Charles01 (talk) 14:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds proper to me. Change it back, see what happens.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:57, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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