Talk:First Canadian Army

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Black Canadians[edit]

I just saw a photo of Canadians taken prisoner at Dieppe, one soldier appears to be black. Did the Canadian forces enlist Black men or was the guy in the photo using face camouflage?--Woogie10w (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

not sure whether this would/should be under "first canadian army" which is one specific formation in the canadian army
and I am not sure about the answer to you question
my guess would be that blacks were permitted but not especially encouraged (and perhaps not a large percentage of the population at that time Feldercarb (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Size[edit]

I was hoping to make the pictures larger, but I see it has been undone One problem with "clicking" to make it bigger is that you lose the CAPTION -- anyway around this?

Ctrl+W to open the picture in a new window and juxtapose the two windows so you can see both picture and caption? Or edit the source page in Commons so that the description there includes the caption. Stephen Kirrage talk - contribs 23:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

where should First Canadian Heavy Artillery redirect to?[edit]

the name occurs in a cite I expanded William Culham Woodward with, I'm unsure where to redirect that to.Skookum1 (talk) 06:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Probably Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery is best. By the way, the William Culham Woodward article says he was in the Second World War, but the reference says First World War. Which makes sense because the WWII units list in Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery does not have any heavies, but the WWI list does. It's frustrating that Knowbc garbles the name of the unit: do they mean 1st Heavy Brigade, CGA, or 1st Heavy Battery, CGA? According to DND’s Directorate of History and Heritage, the former is perpetuated by The Prince Edward Island Regiment (RCAC) and the latter by the 50th Field Battery, RCA, in Montreal. Indefatigable (talk) 17:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
After looking at this a little more, in particular the lineage of the PEIR, I have changed my mind: KnowBC is probably referring to 1st Canadian Heavy Artillery Group, CEF, which was another name for the 1st Heavy Brigade, CGA, so redirect it to The Prince Edward Island Regiment (RCAC). Indefatigable (talk) 17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Date of the Invasion of Normandy[edit]

I'm surprised to see the date of the Invasion of Normandy given as May 31, 1944. The Wikipedia article Operation Overlord/Battle of Normandy says "The operation commenced on 6 June 1944 with the Normandy landings...". We're talking about D-Day, right? Jimkinna (talk) 05:28, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Context is Important: British Army or Canadian Army[edit]

This article appears to have a modern context applied to a historic set of facts. In World War II, there was no "Canadian Army." There were Canadian raised divisions in the British Army. The distinction is important as it is not analogous to the American Expeditionary Force in World War I or the U.S. Army fighting in the European Theater of Operations in World War II.

At this point, the Canadian provinces had collective home rule but were not a sovereign country. The UK Parliament had veto over all Canadian laws.

In the info box, there is this text:

"Senior Canadian operational formation in Europe during World War II"

I think it should be changed to:

"British Army designated force comprising primarily Canadian sourced divisions but also with UK divisions and other national elements"

In the main body there is this statement:

"the senior formation of the Canadian Army"

This should be changed to:

"a formation of the British Army in which most Canadian elements of the British Army serving in Northwest Europe were assigned" Bemcfarland (talk) 19:53, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not correct. The Canadian Army (under that name) was established in 1940. With the exception of some special forces units, all the Canadian land forces that fought in WWII were Canadian Army. Prior to this it was called the Canadian Milita, a formation that predates Canadian confederation. I won't get into the issue of Canadian sovereignty here, as there are other articles dedicated to the topic. Mediatech492 (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
By early 1945 three-quarters of the men in the 1st Canadian Army were actually from the UK, see here at end: [1]
Whatever the home country the men were from, the 1st Canadian Army did a grand job.