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"Alternative" pronunciations in the table[edit]

This is not common practice, and /r/ is not a dental plosive, so it does not belong in the table. Mentioning the actual pronunciation under the table is sufficient. SURJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 07:53, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Again: the standard educated pronunciation is /d/, and the table is about that standard pronunciation. If it were about dialects, you'd have to add in palatalization and all that as well. SURJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 07:55, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

please help with Finnish language section in Syntactic gemination article[edit]

Please translate fi:Rajageminaatio into there. - Altenmann >talk 18:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect information in Medieval Period section[edit]

Second paragraph contains information not found in the reference 19 [1]. The referred article talks about New Age period 17th and 18th centuries not medieval period. Also the paragraph implies that area of modern Finland was only under Swedish control during the Middle Age when major parts of modern Finland were part of Sweden until 1808. I suggest removing this paragraph completely or major refactoring. 217.156.136.74 (talk) 13:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Kansallinen identiteetti Ruotsissa ja Suomessa 1600–1700-luvuilla näkymä". journal.fi (in Finnish). Retrieved 2018-03-07.

"Standard language" / "formal language"[edit]

Both terms are used (so far as I can tell) interchangeably. If these terms are decided mean the same thing, both should be mentioned but probably just one should be subsequently used. If they mean different things, they should be defined in the article. Kdtbhl (talk) 20:07, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Kdtbhl[reply]

future tense in swedish influenced writting[edit]

Germanic languages are influencing Finnish. While vocab from swedish and english can be seen other features too. Sveticism article refers to a future tense. AND the rising intonation for questioning is found in Finnish young people's speech.

I do not add these to the article as purists will just remove it. But these features are found in the language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.30.115 (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


No 'ž' in alphabet[edit]

In Consonants section, "The official alphabet includes "z" [z] and 'ž' [ʒ]" is a confusing, as it implies the Finnish alphabet includes 'ž', which is untrue. --Sw-f (talk) 21:09, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it as you appear to be right, remember WP:BOLD. TylerBurden (talk) 00:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Finnish alphabet does not include <š> and <ž>, but the Finnish orthography does. Subtle difference. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 14:42, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Traditional dialects[edit]

This article should (at least in my opinion) only be concentrating on traditional dialects + Kven and Meänkieli (both of which are Peräpohjola dialects, and thus not really separate from Finnish). The other "dialects", such as "Helsinki slang", "American Finnish", "Sweden Finnish", "Siberian Finnish" etc are not notable and should be placed in a separate section. They should also be removed from the infobox. The same story with the "Ingrian", "Kainuu", "Rauma", "Värmland" variants, they are all offshoots from traditional Western and Eastern Finnish dialects. Skäggdopping (talk) 19:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

"The usual analysis is that Finnish has long and short vowels and consonants as distinct phonemes." Do we have a source for this? I thought the normal analysis was that Finnish long vowels/consonants are sequences of two phonemes; at least this is the analysis Fred Karlsson gives in Suomen yleiskielen segmentaalifoneemien paradigma. Stockhausenfan (talk) 21:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]