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Ensign Website[edit]

Company websites by their nature are promotional. If company's couldn't promote their products, most corporate websites wouldn't exist.

Granted Ensignbus' website is probably a bit more 'promotional' than other bus operators, but that is because they are also an active dealership. Certainly no more promotional than any other motor vehicle dealer.

Just look at Selfridges, Tesco and Toyota, their websites are all about promoting product. If you suggested these should be removed from their respective wiki pages for being 'unduly promotional' you'll be laughed out of town.Mo7838 (talk) 08:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External links policy allows links to company websites to show how a company sees itself. It does not say we have to have them. This link has no encyclopedic merit whatever.--Charles (talk) 19:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having revisited the site after 6 months, would still not describe it as overly promotional. Certainly no more promotional than the website of the 3 organisations listed above that all have their websites on their respective Wiki articles. Again the claim that the site should not be included on the basis of it being primarily advertising, is without foundation. Mo7838 (talk) 08:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not overly promotional? It is nothing but advertising and a bit of traffic news. It says nothing about the company or how it sees itself.--Charles (talk) 09:43, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This needs wider discussion. I have made a Request for comment at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Request board#Do companies have an automatic right to have a link to their website?.--Charles (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One of the reasons for not including bus operator's routes per not travel is that this information is available on an operator's website. So it is sensible to include a link to this information.[1]

Comparing Ensign's website to that of Brighton & Hove, Lothian Buses, First Great Western, Stena Line, EasyJet as random examples of transport operators, can't really see a difference in the content of the sites.

Yes there is a promotional element, that's what company websites exist for. But there is also a list of the services provided which is beneficial. [2] debunks the notion that the site says nothing about the company or how it sees itself. Mo7838 (talk) 10:22, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Information is available on operators websites but that does not mean it is sensible to provide links to it. That drives a coach and horses through Wikipedia policy of avoiding advertising and promotion.--Charles (talk) 17:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I generally think we should link there site, I agree it's slightly promo but they're a dealer so is kind of expected, We started removing routes & telling everyone to sod off to the operators site .... but now they're being removed too ?? I suppose we could link to the route section of the site only ? ... Just a suggestion ... →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 18:08, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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