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Snow and Ice?[edit]

How do these systems deal with snow and ice? Are they strong enough for vehicles to drive on? They surface has many joints - how does the blade of a plow not damage the surface? Are airports limited to using sweeping equipment? Icefield (talk) 14:11, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Usualy, blades are equiped with rollers that lift the blade several millimeters away from the surface. The bottom part of the blade is not touching the road, it prevents it from beeing worn out too quickly (the road and the blade). 2A01:CB00:8382:8000:D4F6:309D:C14C:A466 (talk) 16:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No reference to arrestor use development and history[edit]

Numerous runways had run-off areas, long before engineered deceleration zones. Drag racing had them in the 1960s and 1970s. Early systems used sand and pea gravel that would decelerate and stop vehicles as tires would sink well below the normal surface level. Many of these are still in use as are various netting-style arrestors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homebuilding (talkcontribs) 15:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Advert?[edit]

The paragraph about "Engineered Arresting Systems Corporation" reads like an advertisement. I think the last two sentences, the ones about cost and where they produce it, ought to be deleted. - Psyno 06:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The FAA EMAS standard says nothing about concrete blocks, this is a plug for ESCO systems 173.164.178.105 (talk) 17:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biased[edit]

"Every passenger on an aircraft that has entered an EMAS has walked away, and every aircraft has flown away" I believe this article is unneeded and like a sales pitch. Im suggesting that it be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.114.126 (talk) 02:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and furthermore, it contradicts a reference in the Wikipedia entry on the Bombardier CRJ200, which states that a CRJ200 operated by PSA Airlines "was stopped by the EMAS at the end of the runway, sustaining substantial damage to its undercarriage." Because apparently not every aircraft has flown away, I'm going to remove the above sentence. [1]

The quote is from me, and it is accurate. Every aircraft has flown away. The damage to the PSA aircraft was not "substantial." It was to a landing gear cover. The aircraft was flown away within days of the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.228.37 (talk) 13:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Accident: PSA Airlines CRJ2 at Charleston on Jan 19th 2010, overran runway on takeoff". The Aviation Herald. Retrieved 20 January 2010.

Essential accurate historical information on Engineered Material Aircraft Arresting Systems[edit]

Although ESCCO were tasked with producing the first cement based system, the development,engineering, funding, and government buy-in were the work of other people. Please read the following PDF, the awarding of the prestigious Sperry award for greater detail on this very important aviation development.

http://www.sperryaward.org/Sperrybooklet2007final.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.150.24 (talk) 18:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate Info re: the 10-13-06 Burbank incident[edit]

This incident was NOT a runway overrun, as mis-stated by Jennifer Oldham's article headline. This was a unique incident in which the pilot had completed an uneventful landing and then turned to taxi to park, but came to a stop in the EMAS area. It was determined in the NTSB report that the EMAS was not correctly identified on the charts needed for the taxi, thus presented a potential taxi hazard. CONCLUSION: overall, EMAS appears to be an effective safety improvement, but it also presents a taxi hazard, if not clearly identified.Reformfaanow (talk) 17:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edits[edit]

I edited it a couple of times. Tell me what you think. Clubclubclub (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any evidence of WP:POV issue now. I have since removed that tag. Z22 (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Marketing Material[edit]

I have removed the blatent marketing material paragraph that read "EMASMAX® is the latest, most durable version of Zodiac Arresting Systems'". This was a word for word copy and paste from that company's website marketing.Savlonn (talk) 10:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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737 Runs into EMAS at Burbank, CA, USA, 6 December 2018. No Injuries.170.20.96.10 (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[edit]

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