Talk:Emergency Detour Route

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Images[edit]

Should we include the images from the MTO's website? RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 01:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment and project tags[edit]

It is very academically dishonest to retag this article for WP:HWY just to remove it from the Stub-Class categories for WP:CRWP and WP:ONRD when it has both {{Ontario-county-road-stub}} and {{Ontario-highway-stub}} on it. This is an Ontario-specific article subject, so if you want to get it out of Category:Stub-Class Ontario road transport articles, you need to improve the article to Start-Class or higher on the WP:1.0 scale.

Some suggestions would be:

Create a full section on the marker used. If U.S. Route shield can get its own article, I think this article could get a section on the marker.
Dig up some history on when this designation was created and the system signed. It doesn't have to be much, but even a short paragraph would suffice.
Create a "Description" section that describes where these routes are, maybe with some examples of the roads they follow.

Or, merge the appropriate information into Special route#Emergency detour routes since it's essentially the same concept. Michigan has these all over in places now (several city streets are now signed as Emergency M-6, Emergency I-96 and Emergency US 131 in the Grand Rapids area. There are even signed examples for US 2 and M-28 in the UP. Get a photo of an EDR marker from Ontario, replace that hideous one in at the Special route section and work in a concise paragraph. Then this article title could be made into a redirect. It's pretty much an either/or. Either this article exists, and CRWP/ONRD take their lumps that it is a stub, or it is redirected to another article. Imzadi 1979 → 21:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had honestly just copied the wikiproject banner from Talk:Special route. I never take those stub templates into consideration. That being said, I was confused on how to expand this given that its not a highway, but rather a concept applied in many places. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 00:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, here's the deal as I see it. If an article does not have any specificity to a certain region, then it's HWY without task forces. If it's specific to a certain region, it gets the HWY template with the regional task force, the CRWP, UKRD or USRD banner. If it's CRWP or USRD, it gets states/provinces added if it's specific to any of them instead of universal to the country. This article, as written, is very much an Ontario-specific concept, so it gets CRWP- and ONRD-tagged. Special route is about a concept that's not specific to any one country, which is why it's HWY w/o TFs.

I'd be willing to consider this a start-class or higher assessment if it gets more subsections with some meat in them. (Meaning you can't toss in seven, 2-sentence sections to claim it's got seven sections.) The other course of action though would be to expand the section in the Special route article with some ON examples and details, especially since how MTO is doing this is very much what MDOT is doing here in Michigan. Imzadi 1979 → 00:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Globalize[edit]

This topic should be globalized. Floydian removed the "globalize" tag saying that it is "not a global topic". Maybe it is a North America topic, but it is not just a Canada topic:

-anon (talk) 14:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emergency detour routes are common around the world (although the term is probably more North-American), but this article is on the Emergency Detour Route system in Ontario, not emergency detours in general:

Emergency Detour Route - Ontario
Emergency detour route - General article

Hope that clarifies things (although this one should perhaps have (Ontario) tacked to the end of the title). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 14:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no move. Rough consensus that the capitalization sufficiently distinguished the article from emergency detour route, a redirect to the only other ambiguous article.Cúchullain ^t/c 15:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emergency Detour Route → Emergency Detour Route (Ontario) – I have removed the globalize tag and created Permanently-signed detour route. I suggest moving this article to Emergency Detour Route (Ontario) (I am not autoconfirmed so I can't do the move myself.) Thanks. Riversense (talk) 14:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've formatted this as an official requested move. --BDD (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Should this not be Emergency detour route (Ontario)? --Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 16:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, its the name of a government program. Same rationale behind Connecting Link. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think that the title should be left alone. The hatnote makes it clear that this is an Ontario-specific topic and points to the generic article. We shouldn't disambiguate where it isn't necessary, and I'll note that the generic article is now titled Permanently-signed detour route. Imzadi 1979 → 15:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The capitalization makes it distinct from the general term "emergency detour route". No need to further disambiguate this title. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 13:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.