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[1][2]. There is also [3], but it says "blogs".

@Beccaynr@Russ Woodroofe, other interested, hope you are well. What, if anything, should be added to the article about this "thing" atm? WP:PROPORTION etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I looked relatively briefly, but the first two sources look solid for a brief mention, especially given the professional impact. The third source looks like WP:RSOPINION at best, but I do note that it's featured on the front page of the Suburban webpage. Any mention should start with the book removal (following the reliable sources). Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"In February 2024, her books were removed from the Jewish Public Library in Montreal in response to her criticism of Israel."

Something like that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I went and added something very close to that to the article! Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine. It would be even better if the article had more on other stuff, but good enough. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:19, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I was actually just thinking of the past discussion we had on a previous topic and generally referenced the issue on another article's talk page. I am mostly off-wiki today, so I won't be able to immediately focus on this or the other article, but I will ping you both at that article based on our past work - if Russ Woodroofe can once again find excellent sources, this may make all the difference. Thanks again, Beccaynr (talk) 15:46, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that may have been that. "In early 2024, a library moved some of her books, but moved them back about a week later." At some point we might consider removing the whole thing. My problem is not sourcing, the sources are quite good, it's keeping this in WP:PROPORTION. This shouldn't be the biggest paragraph in the article because it's in the news now. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and yes. If we did keep a form of this in the article, we might go with something like "In 2024, the Jewish Public Library of Montreal briefly removed her books from circulation, following comments of hers regarding the Israel-Hamas war." Not sure it is WP:DUE, even in the short form. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is quite good ("removed her books from circulation" may be technically wrong). The story has interesting details, but DUE is a thing here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]