Talk:Elena Donaldson-Akhmilovskaya

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The story is not true?[edit]

I have put all the challenged romance story into the phrase starting "According to the Times". If it is not true then it is not our fault. Obviously we are happy to insert "But according to XXXXX it was the other way around". The XXXX can be any WP:RS including personal websites of Elena or John Donaldsons. Unfortunately just words of an anonim are not verifiable information Alex Bakharev 08:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The Times link is a legitimate source, even if the accuracy is disputed. The problem here is that we have someone claiming to be John Donaldson changing the article, but we cannot verify his identity. If it is you, Mr. Donaldson, help us out by giving us something to link to, even if it is your personal website! In the mean time, I have added the dispute tag and tried to reach a medium that we can live with until we have further information. Thanks! Ryanositis 19:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Watch the Players[edit]

I think that the To and Fro on this issue is interesting and tells us something about Wikipedia. There are basically two groups: The left-wingers like User:Phr Paul Rubin and Eric Schiller who loved the glorious Soviet Union and are sure that nobody would ever want to defect from such a wonderful place and therefore call it a "love affair". Then there are the right wingers like me who have the advantage of having been there right on the spot when the events in question happened and call this a defection. So, we have the left-wingers promoting "love" repeatedly reverting the right-wingers emphasizing the political aspects of the events in question.

Next, we have some Wikipedia administrators who have no knowledge of the events in question but who keep reverting those of us who were there. Those guys say that the "love affair" lasted three years from 1985 to 1988. I will have you know that I met her in 1986 in Dubai (and I am sure she remembers me as nobody forgets me) and I did not see Donaldson hanging around her and I certainly would have known about that, if it had occurred. Why cannot you just accept him at his word that he met her for the first time in 1988? It seems to be a fundamental flaw in Wikipedia that you cannot accept the word of the man himself and instead put one of those funny boxes on the front of the page to tell the world that there is some dispute over how long he loved her. Sam Sloan 13:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was there too, and as I recall it, Donaldson was trying to defect to the Soviet Union, but then Indian Jones and Ronald Reagan showed up and herded them onto a ship to the US. And I'm a far better source than the other editors, since I am Ronald Reagan.--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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