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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Pounders vs copper chisels for quarrying limestone[edit]

In construction this phrase is being used, "Most of the construction hypotheses are based on the belief that huge stones were carved from quarries with copper chisels", I thought consensus was that the quarries showed that for limestone it was bashed out with pounders? Hanslune (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand, is that limestone is soft enough to work with copper chisels. The granite is too hard to be worked with copper tools, they had to use dolomite pounders for that. The pounding is a rather slow proces. MichielOvertoom (talk) 16:24, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Geopolymer casing theory[edit]

Why is this theory not mentioned at all if it has already been a proven method of construction? 2806:2F0:5121:F0B9:7141:E03E:72CC:AD24 (talk) 03:33, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is already mentioned: Egyptian_pyramid_construction_techniques#Geopolymer Hypnôs (talk) 08:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leiermann Article[edit]

I was fixing some reference formatting issues in Egyptian pyramid construction techniques#Ramps, and the editor flagged the journal that Leiermann used to publish his article. Semchet (talk · contribs) can you comment on whether Leiermann is enough of expert in the field that we can still use this? Juan el Demografo (talk) 19:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

edit request[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The request was not specific enough. You may consider leaving your comments on the Talk page or escalating significant issues to the conflict of interest noticeboard.

Dear Wikipedia Editors, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly request the inclusion of my recent findings in the 'Levering' chapter of the 'Pyramid Construction Techniques' article. I acknowledge a potential conflict of interest, as I am referring to an article of my own creation. However, this is unavoidable as there are currently no other sources available that discuss this novel and potentially construction method for the Pyramid of Khufu. The presented pyramid construction method introduces a unique perspective that may hold the key to unraveling the millennia-old mystery of pyramid building. I am eager to receive feedback and comments from the Wikipedia community regarding this addition. Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to contributing to the continued exploration and understanding of pyramid construction techniques. Sincerely,Bernard Mullers (talk) 09:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The current request is not specific enough to make changes to the page. Consider developing changes in a new talk section or visit the conflict of interest noticeboard for serious issues. Shadow311 (talk) 20:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Pyramid Blocks with water[edit]

All, I’ve never seen this method suggested but have held it in my beliefs that the stone blocks were moved by water. I postulate that barges arrived in the port on the Nile and the blocks on the barges were affixed to wooden cradles which were used to float the blocks via a sluice to the pyramid base. There a system of locks were employed to raise the cradles to the level being constructed. These cradles would be returned to the port for reuse. Water was used for many purposes and is seen still today being pumped with Oxen as in ancient times. 98.10.226.68 (talk) 00:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds similar to the Chris Massey Water Shaft Theory in talk archives. Pumping water to irrigate fields is certainly of a different order than pumping water to lift multi-ton blocks of stone. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transport tact?[edit]

The article contains the text "...the transport challenge was not the transport flow as such as a transport tact of a stone of circa 1 ton every 2,3 minutes by human draw teams on a ramp of maximum 10% was possible...". I can't parse this sentence, even if I change "2,3" to "2.3". Could someone who does understand the sentence reword it for us mortals? Thanks. Riordanmr (talk) 22:07, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some changes that might make it more intelligible, but only by making suppositions about what was meant, as there was evidently no source to consult. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]