Talk:Education in Ghana/Archive 1

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But what percentage of children actually go to school? How many of them can afford it? In the article it says it has many school universities but how many children have enough money to go there? I bet Half of the population is too poor to go to school.

"sadly" is a pretty major violation of neutrality of view. This article is just one man's political views dressed up as "facts". Shouldn't it be deleted?

Well the real question is how can tings be changed.theres plently of NGO's out in Ghana willing to spend time and effort, if anybody could be bothered to get behind them.

This article needs to be revised. 99.163.174.118 (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

This article is so biased and totally unobjective. Most of the information contained in it are also erroneous and are based on the author's judgement and not facts. I think it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maameyaakyei (talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Reconstruction of the article and things to work on

I felt the article was really messy(information without any link to their title, no logic order in those titles...), so I've taken the time to put things in order, following the model of the GA Education in Malta.

I have moved more than deleted. I have really tried hard not to suppress content. Nevertheless, there were some irrelevant points, doubtful information and POV. I have reformulated, resourced, added "citation needed" templates, but still, I did delete some stuffs. I hope my work won't hurt any contributor's feeling. That being said, I think there is still a lot of work to do on this article (which has a good potential I believe !). Here is a to-do list that I'm going to follow (and any help is highly welcome):

Finding more sources: many statements still looks like OR and POV. they could bring interesting insights on the theme though. So finding some new references to avoid deleting them would be nice.
Build a "secondary Education" part instead of the "SHS" part. According to [http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/worldtvetdatabase1.php?ct=GHA UNESCO-UNEVOC, secondary education in ghana is not limited to SHS. There are technical schools etc. Moreover, the actual SHS part is a bit messy, with that long list on curriculum which seems to repeat the previous paragraphs.

UPDATE: Precisions on the comparison USA/ghana(IMO, the table is useless...). New source on the curriculum(WASSCE council, seems legit), allowing me to fix some mistakes and delete the duplicate. Precisions on the length of SHS. Deletion of the POV on the superiority of public school, replaced by a link to the ministry of Education's ranking. One OR (about "science students" (?)) to source or to delete later. KaptainIgloo (talk) 21:37, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

partially Rewrite the "tertiarty Education" part. Some statements (about Ghana university and this foreign language institute) really sounds like promotional work. I also think there is too much pictures at the beginning, but that might just be me...

UPDATE: deleted the first list of public universities (there is an article for that + the "ranking" was unsourced). Deleted one picture which was on the "list of university" article already. Added new information mostly based on a new peer-reviewed academic article: it helped a lot to build 2 paragraphs about inequalities in higher education. I really want to delete everything that come after those paragraphs: the list comes from this source, which doesn't seem reliable at all.Information about university of ghana and others are, in my opinion, irrelevant here (why talking specifically about those universties ? it is not fair and I don't see what it brings in terms of encyclopedic value). I'd like some tierce opinion before deleting such a big part though. Please comment ! KaptainIgloo (talk) 08:28, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Reread the "grading system" part. It is interesting but I find it a bit confusing...

UPDATE: copy/edit of the first paragraph. Reconstruction of the "SSHS" part based on the "NUFFIC" document. Brand new table. I hope I haven't misunderstood the system... KaptainIgloo (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

clean and update the "external link" part. The links are not irrelevant but there are too many (in my opinion). It would need, at least, some reorganization. Moreover, some would need update (2009 sources are not that bad but still... it is starting to get a bit old.)

UPDATE Deletion of almost all the existing links: Most of them could be replaced by one or two references. Creation of 2 sections: "official authorities" and "Data and report". In the latter, I wanted to have just a few up-to-date/legit/various sources. I have chosen: 1/ A global overview of the system, through the "NUFFIC" document. NUFFIC is not much known but seems really serious. more important: the document is really clear and well-conceived, with a nice diagram at p2. 2/ An overview of the vocational system, as vocational Education is a rising theme in Education policies in general. And it comes from UNESCO, so hard to be more legitimate. 3/ A 2 page analysis by UNICEF: a lot of data and a really short and straight analysis... I think it is completing the 2 other sources well. 4/ The review about 1988-1998... I have left it "for the record", as it seems really complete and legitimate. KaptainIgloo (talk) 15:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I'll keep updating this list. Any help or comment is highly welcome... as you can guess, I am not a native speaker, so I won't be able to do that alone... All the best. KaptainIgloo (talk) 08:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi KaptainIgloo Thanks for all you edits. Am a Ghanaian, go ahead I'll help. Merci

. →Enock4seth ^(talk) 22:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Un plaisir :) Thanks, it really cheers me up. I'm just a random french guy, and it is sometime hard to work on a system I have not experienced myself in any way. I am really glad to have your help and support here :) KaptainIgloo (talk) 11:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC) UPDATE: I have done most of the points of the list above, but there is still a lot to do ! What I have been doing today: Reconstruction of "Statistics", with more information + 2 tables (it would be nice to have them side by side, but I couldn't make it :( ), small rearrangement of "tertiary education". I am now using the sfn template and will make the change for a couple of already-existing sources (I have done it for "Ansaeh" as well). Next big steps: working on secondary education/vocational education, adding a paragraph about Non-formal Education, and maybe, a paragraph about the administration o fEducation in Ghana (If i'm still motivated). KaptainIgloo (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Most claims/statements are not cited, making those claims/statements unreliable.Abraham Martei Martey (talk) 09:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Some of the citations are linked to news journals which questions the notability of the sources.Abraham Martei Martey (talk) 09:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Let's go further

I have made massive changes on my last edit by reconstructing the "structure" part. I think it announces a new wave of edit, so I create a new section on this talk page.

I have finally deleted all the remaining data which were not sourced. I am aware it is quite violent, but it was needed, I think. Most were irrelevant anyway (dubious lists, promotional work for some institutions, and sometime, false information). As the article was getting stronger and well-sourced, those information were pulling it down.
The "structure of formal education" now follows the one described by the MoE, which should make the things clearer. I have work to avoid tons of subparts, as it is generally advised. I have rewritten the "overview" subpart to compensate: it gives quick summary of this massive part.
I have copy/edited all the subparts, to make this "structure" part consistent.

Now, what is next ? Here is my opinion:

A new part about Challenges and Education policies in Ghana. It would gathers the already written parts about inequality (inside the tertiary education at the moment), the ICT, and would include 2 new parts: Non-formal Education and "improving Vocational Education".

Update: subsection about administration added. Needs more information on agencies about tertiary education (MOE website down at the moment) AND the training of teachers(IBE source ?). Oh, and thanks for the picture Bantekas. I deleted just one because it was not really about education, and the layout was a bit confusing(althought aesthetic, I admit !). KaptainIgloo (talk) 08:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Update: Subsection about non-formal education added. I have made a focus on the action against illiteracy, as it was obviously the most ambitious and long term policy in the non-formal education sector.KaptainIgloo (talk) 15:19, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Update: Subsection about financing added. A bit short, but going into details would be confusing. Governance and policies can now be divided. KaptainIgloo (talk) 14:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Update: Subsections about teacher training and about development of TVET added. More could be said (notably on public action regarding teacher condition) but the current text should suffice for now. I am now done content-wise. It has taken a while, but I have finally written on all the topics I wanted to approach :)) Next step: The lead KaptainIgloo (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Total rewriting of the lead.

Update: Done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaptainIgloo (talk • contribs) 18:27, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

updating the infobox

Update: Done. I have not added data on money spent per student, as it might look confusing: The only way to be thorough here would be to display the stats for all level of education... a bit "overbearing". KaptainIgloo (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

New part about History

UPDATE That was definitely not the priority, but I found some sources and felt inspired... :-) more information about colonial time and on the new education strategic plan after the FCUBE are needed. And a good copy/edit as well.

copy/edit of the whole article (daaamn, I'm afraid my English needs some serious fixes !)

As usual, I'll keep updating this list. And I hope to have some feedbacks :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaptainIgloo (talk • contribs) 15:28, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Education in Ghana/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk · contribs) 02:16, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments

I will be reviewing this article in the coming week. Thank you for all the work you've done on education systems around the world! It's so needed. - Lemurbaby (talk) 02:16, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi ! Thanks a lot for taking the time to review this article ! I am staying at your disposal ;) KaptainIgloo (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Definitely! I'll do what I can to help pass this article and the other education articles you're working on. Do you work in this sector? How did you come to be interested in it? - Lemurbaby (talk) 10:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ! ! That's quite a big list :) Regarding my interest on education: I don't know, it is just a topic that talks to me. I have studied politics ("expertise de la décision publique" to be precise ;) )and I have always loved to work on problematics related to educational policies. It tells so much about how a country sees itself... Then I have made an unpaid internship at UNESCO (something like research assistant) and I have become familiar with a big pack of reliable resources (from UNICEF, IBE, UNEVOC etc.). I felt it was the time to get involved in wikipedia. My first goal was to add more information on vocational and technical education as this aspect of Education is frequently forgotten. But many articles were so limited and badly structured (like this very article], actually) that it made no sense to write a couple of sentences about TVET and leave. So I have started to write about everything else :d and in general, I feel sad when I see an article which has remained in a bad shape for years, without a single valid reference and with nobody giving a crap... I feel forced to do someting ( For Pete's sake, Education is important :o). Now that I am done with my master degree, I am looking for a job, hopefully in the field education ( I might get a short term contract at UNESCO in the days to come :) ).

Anyway, Thanks a lot for noticing my other edits. When I work on Education in Nepal, I really doubt that someone will ever note what I am writing:D It is nice to hear that actually, some people do. KaptainIgloo (talk) 11:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Wonderful! I feel the same way, but I'm focusing on all topics related to Madagascar for the time being. Education would be a priority for me after I work my way through Mada articles. I think we probably have some friends in common at UNESCO. I was an intern there in 2009 and some of my friends and many colleagues still work there (do you know an Antoine?). :) Now I'm an Education Officer with USAID, working in Pakistan. Wishing you very good luck landing a contract at UNESCO! - Carrie

Aha!I was at the Bonn facilities, and I have not met any Antoine there. I just got the job (starting in October !) so maybe I'll have the chance to see him some day :D KaptainIgloo (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. Sorry that I have not been able to update the article those last days. New work and not a lot of time. But I'll get back to it this week-end. Regards, KaptainIgloo (talk) 11:33, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Images

The National Archives UK - CO 1069-46-19.jpg - please add US copyright info
Ghana Ratio of Girls to Boys in Primary and Secondary Education.png - add US copyright info
Ghana Education Structure.gif - unclear what the source is and whether it is truly in the public domain. Please add US copyright info

I don't know much about images & copyrights. I have not added any of those pictures and I don't really know how to add the proper "copyright info" :/

MOS, citations and formatting

Please apply the same consistent formatting for citations, particularly for pages (period after p. and space after p. etc)

Done ?

Check for doubled citation elements, like double sets of quotation marks or double use of p. in a single citation

Done ?

Use "Ministry of Education" , not MOE, as the author of the Ed Sector Performance report

Done

Verify use of capitalization in references (i.e. Netherlands organisation for international cooperation in higher Education)

Done: I couldn't find the meaning (certainly in dutch) of the NUFFIC acronym though.

~~Please shift the citations out of the lead. All stats and other content in the lead need to be mentioned in the body and that's where the content should be cited.~~

Done

Remove periods at the end of incomplete sentences in image captions/tables.

Done ? I have only seen the ones in the tables of the statistics section.

Review spacing (especially around parentheses), punctuation and capitalization throughout. I would recommend a thorough copy edit

Not done - you will find this in the body too. I'll start a copy edit.

Will be done after content edits

When a number written in the prose (i.e. not in a table) is less than ten, spell it out (except for ranges, percentages or decimals). If ten or more, use numerals. Use a period for decimals, not a comma.

Same

Regarding the citations formatting: Is it OK now ? Do I have to always use the same model (and make { {cite } } references out of my { { sfn } } references for instance) ? KaptainIgloo (talk) 11:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Content

In the history section, education in the colonial period should be addressed in more detail. It would also be good to more explicitly tie predominant political trends and economic/social factors to education reforms under specific administrations.

Done ? Causal links are hard to establish without falling in original researches here. I have tried to add some stuff about the national context though.

Spell out GER on first use

Done

Would be wonderful to have a table showing enrollment rates, literacy rates, and number of schools/teachers/pupils over time

Done ? I have tried to stay concise.

Regarding the enrollment rates and the number of schools/teachers/pupils: to do the things right, it would be necessary to put information for all level of instruction, and to take into consideration the fact that many levels changed since independance (Middle school -> JHS for instance), but such table would be (in my opinion) exhausting to read. So I've thought of gathering data on "compulsory education" only. It's a bit "unorthodox" but the information given is clearer, I think. With this approach, I didn't know how to obtain a valid GER so I have prefered to forget about it. Some data are also still to be found. Oh, and I couldn't find enough reliable data so far to make something equivalent for secondary/tertiary education(MoE website is quite poor here).

Regarding the literacy rate: I have added the table at the end of the relevant subsection about adult education. I prefer to avoid the accumulation of tables in the statistics section. In my opinon, it should remain dedicated to the present state of Education in Ghana to not become a huge mess. KaptainIgloo (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

What are the key documents or policies guiding education planning into the future? how is education discussed in the broader national development strategy documents?
There should be a much larger discussion on education quality - national standards, textbook (and other material) design and availability, academic outcomes, student repetition and dropout, teacher motivation, corruption, private tutoring, ghost schools/teachers, accountability, parental involvement/parent-teacher councils, relevance of curriculum to workforce demands etc
Do students take exams to advance a grade level each year? are there exams required to earn certificates like the BECE? How is the exam system run?
Explain WASSCE
How many hours a day do students spend in the classroom? Are schools single shift or double shift?
The grading system section is a little unclear. More detail would help
Is the system currently centralized or decentralized? Why/when was this changed and what have been the results?
How do students finance higher education?
Are there any "unofficial" costs associated with "free" public education that prevent the poor from enrolling?
What proportion at each level enroll in private schools? Are private schools mostly secular or religious? More about private schools in general (access, performance, governance, standards etc) would be good
is there internet connectivity ain the computer labs?
How does school financing and oversight work?

That's it for now. Cheers! - Lemurbaby (talk) 10:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Abandoned?

Lemurbaby, it's been close to six weeks since KaptainIgloo edited on this site (the October 3 post above), and even longer since the last edit to the article on September 25. At this point, it's probably best to close the nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Failing per above. Wizardman 04:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Edits and contributions made

Hello Wikipedia community.

I have made the following contribution to this Wikipedia article. Thank you.

1. This will be added to a new section I want to create; Private Education and Private-Public Partnership In Ghana :

The Ghanaian government cannot bear the costs in Education alone, thus private institutions and individuals build and operate private institutions to help the government deal with costs in education.[1] The Ghanian government is incapable of providing increasing educational services.[2] Education in Ghana has therefore become a shared effort by both the government and private institution, in order to make up for financial inefficiency, on the side of the government and make education accessible to all.[1] There is a call for public-private partnership in education in most developing countries due to the growing involvement of private actors in education. [3]

2. This will be added to the "Adult education, non formal education" subheading section:

There is an informal education sector in Ghana, which is usually made up of which is usually made up of training, vocational, and technical institutions. These training, technical, and vocational institutions are informal because they do not take place in a classroom setting; these trainings usually take the form of apprenticeship, direct learning, practice, and supervision from trainers. There is usually no official or recognized certification or qualifications given to trainees. [8]

3. I created a table to show the roles of the private and public sector in the joint effort to provide quality education.

4. I created a new section called "Private Education and Private-Public Partnership In Ghana ". Vicentiagyau (talk) 08:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Ghanaian open access repositories

A list of open access repositories of scholarly communication in Ghana was deleted from en:Wikipedia on 9 April 2018. The wikicode is here. -- Oa01 (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Private education/institutions

The article did not talk about private schools and institutions in Ghana and their contribution towards education in Ghana. It would be great to include this in the article, so it has a more holistic view of education in Ghana. Vicentiagyau (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)This

This section also needs some information about private secondary and tertiary institutions, including possibly links to other articles. (AbrewaAccraLady (talk) 20:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC))

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