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Public opinion section...[edit]

This section needs updating. It says that support has declined, but the sources cited are from a couple years ago. Right now we're in the midst of a global food crisis, and by all indications support for the farmer protests is quite high. -2003:CA:8725:A8D5:C538:82EA:B190:9CC9 (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the EenVandaag and I&O Research polling results to the section. As of late June 2022, understanding (begrip) for the farmers' protests stands at 63% per EenVandaag, while support (steun) stands at 39% as of four days ago per I&O Research (as commissioned by de Volkskrant/Trouw/NOS). --NFSreloaded (talk) 01:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, I added Ipsos' survey results, which also focus on understanding/sympathy rather than support. I'll keep an eye out for other long-term pollsters, especially ones that survey actual support. --NFSreloaded (talk) 02:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right on the money to update this bit. The lede quotes some poll that is presented as mostly negitiive towards farmer's actions yet down the page the quoted polls clearly show that public has been leaning towards farmers' cause more than not (for percentages are greater than against in all samples). This is inconsistent, if anything I cannot see how the poll result table could have been summarized as it is.178.235.12.137 (talk) 16:00, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The lead has cited the results of the polls that are included in the Public opinion section and their 2019–2022 percentile ranges for over a year now. --NFSreloaded (talk) 23:17, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Protest phases and August 2022 events[edit]

Adapting the layout of the Dutch Wikipedia article, I've chronologically divided the farmers' protests into the "four waves" they occurred:

Autumn 2019 to winter 2019/2020 - chiefly in response to member of parliament Tjeerd de Groot's proposal to halve Dutch livestock production
Summer to winter 2020 - in response to minister Carola Schouten's legislation to limit inclusion of crude protein in animal feed
Summer 2021 - in response to the publication of reports on combating pollution which would still greatly impact livestock farming
Summer 2022 to present - in response to minister Christianne van der Wal's new emission reduction goals and policies (see Emission reduction target per area)

Additionally, I've marked the current month of August as an empty section, since no events have yet been added to this article, nor to its Dutch, French, West Frisian or Zeelandic counterparts. --NFSreloaded (talk) 22:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

all the red dead links...[edit]

i fixed a couple (or were they supposed to be dead?), and id be glad to change all the rest of them, but there are so many, im starting to think them being red might be some awkward (and ugly) standard that i dont understand.

instead of using something like: Agractie [nl] and having that ugly red link with [nl] as the citation linking to its dutch wikipedia page, whats wrong with just using: Agractie instead???

it just looks *so* much cleaner.

apparently, external links cant be used in civil conflict infoboxes, so instead of just having a "party" listed plain white with no citation because it doesnt have a dutch wikipedia page like: "Team Agro NL", i feel like it is more informative to use {{cite web}} and actually link it to the website instead, like: "Team Agro NL^[1]"

and then even further into the article, beyond the infobox, where external links are now legal again, they are still using red links that *dont* have dutch wikis but *do* have official websites, however, instead of just using an external link to link to the external site like this: I&O Research, they use an ugly red link with merely the *citation* linking to the external site, like this: I&O Research,^[2].... and i really cant see a point as to why.

there are about 15 more ugly red links, and they can easily be corrected (or at least arguably improved) like 3 different ways to make the article just so much better.

If anybody could shed some light on this topic, i would really appreciate it. please ping me or whatever if and when you reply so i can be notified, thank you. Snarevox (talk) 09:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Snarevox: Check Wikipedia:Red link for the rationale behind leaving red links on articles. The four interlanguage links you removed I had added for ease of translation of the Dutch articles when I got around to it. Assuming I'm not the only person editing this article, I think this setup would've helped others trying their hand at translating as well. --NFSreloaded (talk) 00:19, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NFSreloaded: i apologize, if you havent already, please revert my edits and maintain your standard. i was unaware, and i was unable to find a "why" when i tried to figure it out.. seems i just didnt know where to look. thank you for responding. Snarevox (talk) 04:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Team Agro NL". Retrieved 2022-12-07.
^ Schelde, Asher van der (20 July 2022). "Licht dalende steun voor boerenprotesten". I&O Research. Retrieved 24 July 2022.

[1] "Team Agro NL". Retrieved 2022-12-07.

[ieno-2] Schelde, Asher van der (20 July 2022). "Licht dalende steun voor boerenprotesten". I&O Research. Retrieved 24 July 2022.

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