Talk:Dolores Gray

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What is your source for that? I know it's correct, because I am a distant relative of hers, but am curious to know what the article's source was. mjr92115@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.65.218 (talk) 08:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The IP raises a good point. I've searched secondary sources and can find no substantiation for the claimed birth name ("Finkelstein") that was inserted in the article along with other similiar text. None of the obituaries give a different birth name. While it may have been different than "Gray," editors simply cannot "unearth" such stuff via our own original research. Frankly my original research finds no substantiation for "Finkelstein." Coretheapple (talk) 14:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Birth name and year[edit]

I've done some further research into the birth name of the article subject. I find that indeed there is a reference to her as being born "Finkelstein." However, this same California Birth Index listing shows her birth date as June 7. 1923, not 1924. The Social Security application does not show Finkelstein and shows a former name of Vernon and a birth year of 1923. The SSDI is for Dolores Gray and shows a birth year of 1924. Ditto her tombstone on Findagrave. How can we go with Finkelstein and not also change the birth year? I don't think we can. On balance I am going to just leave it without the original research, birthyear 1924 and no different birth name. I just don't see how we can overrule the reliable secondary sources, none of which reflect either a 1923 birth year or Finkelstein as the birth name. Coretheapple (talk) 20:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]