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Visionary

Dhirubhai Ambani was a fine visionary, and at the same time India's most controversial tycoon. Indian public opinion is deeply divided: To many he is a hero, to as many others a crook. The corporate cash of the incredible empire he built still makes sure that hagiography abounds and that criticism is suppressed. That prevents an open discussion of his merits and shortcomings. Indian politicians and bureaucrats admit in private that he had everyone who counted in his pockets. But at the time, India's economy was burdened with socialistic controls, state intervention was rampant, and entrepreneurial creativity was systematically stifled. To beat the system, everyone had to exploit the greed of the people in power. Ambani did it much more effectively than anybody else. The entrepreneur in him would not be stifled. There is an excellent book on his life called "The Polyester Prince" by Hamish McDonald. It sheds light on all aspects, the bright, the gray and the dark. Unfortunately, it is not for sale in India... from oliver in delhi

a new version of the book titled Ambani and Sons is now available, and so far has not been banned. PratikMallya^Talk! 07:58, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Rivanckinniveols - Meaning?

While I was reading the article, I came across a new word rivanckinniveols (Fourth sentence in 'The Indian Express Articles' enlisted under 'Criticism' in the article). I Googled out for its meaning but the word could only be found in the pages that contained text copied/referenced from Wikipedia. Can anybody elucidate the meaning of rivanckinniveols? Diptanshu^Talk 20:01, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

There are no criticisms anymore. In a a supposedly free and democratic country, you cannot criticise the rich and connected. Scorpio.pradeep (talk) 02:22, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Correction

Hey guys I think he is not from Sindhi Descent, need to cheak out.
- Cyborg 05:08 Nov 13 2008 (IST)

comments

if you know so much about the so called shady stuff.Please sign your name and add more details with sources,ofcourse .Wikipedia is not a place to malign anyone. Administrator

The guy sure did do some shady stuff. Need to include more on that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.91.35.210 (talk • contribs) . on 9th August 2005

i agree! i have been told that he I have been told that he murdered people too, apart from other illegal things like giving lots of money to politicians and stuff. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.111.131.20 (talk • contribs) . on 10th February 2006

I do not agree with above as the logic of human history dictates that no long term success story has been built this way: you should come out with facts and not reliance on hearsay is as good as a POV. --Bhadani 15:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

One thing I would like to point here is that no where it has been found that he used to bribe politicians. As a business house Reliance is still one of the biggest fund contributributors to Political Parties. They do not do it behind the viel, everything is on papers. One interesting fact is that he has always been critisized as a manipulator. Starting from the colums of S.Gurumurthy to recent non-biased colomists everyone has noted that the business house manipulates strigent laws to meet their business requriements. They have always used the loophole and they have never violated the established laws.

Even the allegations on a top Reliance Executive that he had hatched a plot to eliminate Nusli Wadia of the Bombay Dyeing also were baseless.. None of the judicial findings were able to support that claim.

So it would be interesting if his style of management is highligted, which is infact unique.. He was a noble person and perhaps the only businessman whose funeral was attended by thousands of common people. --IndianCow^Talk 22:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture of Sri Dirubhai

hey, there is a picture of him on Reliance Industries website, [1] can we upload it to his infobox? Thanx Tri400 15:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

visionary?

Well he didnt do anything new, he did see a lot of things around him when abroad and tried to apply it to India. There is still a long way, even today for the organization to go when it comes to innovation. Let us put it this way, if there were no laws and rules on import/exports there would be no one to bribe and everyone could import and export things. Given that scenario, would reliance succeed? There is a difference in being able to work the system in your favor and making the system choose you by defacto.

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Complete Re-write?

Besides maybe the introduction, this article is a joke. It reads as if written by someone who idolizes Ambani. Entries should be written in a factual, biographical manner, not like a fanzine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.0.201 (talk) 21:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratik.mallya (talk • contribs)

It sure is. I suspect is has been blatantly copied from some webpage. In particular, the anecdotes peppered throughout the article may not be verifiable PratikMallya^Talk! 08:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

what i personally thnk, dheru bhai mabani was the man of common. he demonstrted a raod map to the willing common india to dream and yes dream big — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.10.209 (talk) 10:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It looks like this whole article is someone's opinion on Dhirubhai Ambani - written like a story. Can't read this article - it is rubbish.

Well it is an advertisement. No one dated criticise the rich and connected in India. Reliance threatens journalists with billion dollar lawsuits for "defamation", an archaic law still persisting in a supposedly free and democratic country. No one questions the share market practices of businesses in India and how they end up with billions of dollars of cash. Scorpio.pradeep (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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Restructuring and topics may be required. --spacejuncky 04:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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hari ganesh

i am hari ganesh

a poor engineering guy with lots of dreams and day dreams working in dubai away from home country india — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.184.82 (talk) 11:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)