Talk:Desperate Romantics

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Historical accuracy[edit]

It's hard to know what to feature in this particular section -if, indeed, other users feel it's appropriate to have one- as we're still so early into the series' maiden broadcast. Would it be appropriate at this stage to jump the gun and mention particular details that've already been hinted at in the programme without yet being expanded upon? (eg. Rossetti's laudanum use, which would eventually kill him, in the second episode; Ruskin's inability/unwillingness to consummate his marriage to Effie; etc) Absurdtrousers (talk) 12:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rossetti's laudanum use is more foreshadowing at the moment, but I think the Ruskin/Effie situation played a significant enough part in the first two episodes to warrant inclusion now. The section itself seems more than appropriate, but I agree that it's difficult to decide just what to feature. The main concern I have is that it might spiral out of control and prove difficult to follow as the series progresses and more and more things, accuracies and glaring inaccuracies alike, are added to it. Perhaps it would benefit from having each detail listed by episode? Heefen78 (talk) 13:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. At present I have added a few things, but I'm more than happy to alter/adjust them to an episode-by-episode format.

Absurdtrousers (talk) 15:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CONCERNING FRED WALTERS[edit]

After watching Desperate Romantics, I looked up Fred Walters. Here on Wikipedia it seems as if there is no account of him, that he was a fictional composite character - yet I found an article written at 'ArtMagick' that does talk of Fred Walters, a lesser known P.R.B. associate. There may be a bit more historical accuracy to Fred than previously attributed. Here is the article: [1] I am just linking this to provide reference to the information I read. I do not consider myself qualified to update the article on the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.208.129.123 (talk) 02:23, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you brought that to our attention. I would guess, then, that the real Fred Walters should be added to the list of the real people who were used to create the "composite character" in the series. Deb (talk) 11:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a joke page. The stuff is all made up. Paul B (talk) 15:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay, I see. It's not all that funny, is it? :-) Deb (talk) 15:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's not exactly side splitting, no. It has its moments: "In an attempt to prove himself as a painter, Fred exhibited a Portrait of E.M. Ward as Shakespeare at the Portland Gallery which, despite being a good likeness of the sitter, was criticised for the inclusion of a microscope. The same microscope appears in his 1850 canvas The Boyhood of the P.R.B which is also notable as the first ever picture to have the initials “P.R.B.” in the title." This is moderately funny if you're into Victorian art. E.M. Ward as Shakespeare. I'd love to have seen that one. Paul B (talk) 15:41, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if it's a deliberate attempt to mislead (in which case, it worked) or just a piece of humour for the well-informed. Deb (talk) 16:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well it starts out sounding plausible, but then gets silly. The paintings are fairly obviously different in style from one another. The "portrait" of EM Ward looks nothing like the pudgy-faced reality, so I guess that's some kind of an in-joke for the thousands of EM Ward fans out there. Paul B (talk) 18:15, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jpgs?[edit]

Anybody have the means to transfer a screen-capture image or the logo for the series to this article under a fair use rationale? Absurdtrousers (talk) 16:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some images, (I also have some of The Love School I may use in the other article). What do you mean by the logo for the series? Do you have scren capture images yourself? Paul B (talk) 17:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry— not logo, I meant the opening title frame. If you could add them that would be great. Cheers for starting The Love School page, too. I'm not much of a technical whizz when it comes to these type of things, I'm afraid! Absurdtrousers (talk) 17:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

here's the title frame: http://i25.tinypic.com/9fsfpw.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.242.51 (talk) 04:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Historical accuracy2[edit]

This is really taking shape! Just wanted to ask, though, re. Paul B's setting up of a Love School page if it was worth mentioning that drama in relation to Romantics? Also, minor point, I know, but would it be worth explaining why Rossetti and co. react so sharply to Millais' sketch for Bubbles in episode four? Absurdtrousers (talk) 17:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the problem is OR, though I doubt anyone will care that much. But technically it counts as "original research" to make the comparison, unless we can find a source. It won't be soon, though as there will be an academic article coming out on this subject - but 'soon' in this context actually means several months! Paul B (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overview[edit]

Does anybody have any production details about the series? Filming locations, etc; thought it might be an idea to expand the Overview section into a Production one. Absurdtrousers (talk) 10:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]